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		<title>AT&amp;T Told us &#8220;You Will&#8221; and We Are</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell Dempsey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 1993, AT&#38;T ran a series of &#8220;You Will&#8221; commercials giving us an interesting view of the future. So it should be of no surprise that everything they said we would be able to do is now a reality.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2009%2F09%2F20%2Fatt-told-us-you-will-and-we-are%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2009%2F09%2F20%2Fatt-told-us-you-will-and-we-are%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>In 1993, AT&amp;T ran a series of &#8220;You Will&#8221; commercials giving us an interesting view of the future. So it should be of no surprise that everything they said we would be able to do is now a reality.</p>
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		<title>Arrington missed the boat, Kel Kelly sets it straight</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve read and reread Michael Arrington&#8217;s screed on the state of PR today.  No doubt he&#8217;s had his full of moronic pitches from overly enthusiastic types pushing this story or that.  Many of the pitches will be totally inappropriate for TechCrunch.
If you&#8217;re an entrepreneur, he&#8217;s got some great basic advice laid out.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F15%2Farrington-missed-the-boat-kel-kelly-sets-it-straight%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F15%2Farrington-missed-the-boat-kel-kelly-sets-it-straight%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I&#8217;ve read and reread <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/13/the-pr-roadblock-on-the-road-to-blissful-blogging/">Michael Arrington&#8217;s screed on the state of PR today</a>.  No doubt he&#8217;s had his full of moronic pitches from overly enthusiastic types pushing this story or that.  Many of the pitches will be totally inappropriate for TechCrunch.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re an entrepreneur, he&#8217;s got some great basic advice laid out.  He also has some dangerous ideas that, once again, show me that some of the people out there who become somewhat successful in a relatively short time have:  a tendency to assume that most aspects of marketing are somewhat frivolous and that all one has to do is follow these small steps.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get right to what he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>So back to practical advice: what do you do if you’re a startup looking for help in getting the word out about your company? First off, don’t hire PR help until the volume of inbound requests by press are simply too much to handle without help. That’s way down the line for most companies.</p>
<p>Until then, take the time to start reading blogs and other publications that cover what you’re doing. Go to an event or two. <strong>This should be fun for you,</strong> since they’re writing about stuff that you’re spending all your time on. You’ll start to see links to other relevant sites, and before long you’ll fully understand who’s who in the space, get a feel for people’s personalities and passions, etc. Leave a few thoughtful comments. Better yet, start your own blog and link appropriately. And in your leisure time participate in the fascinating conversations occurring on Twitter and FriendFeed.</p>
<p>Suddenly you are no longer just a spectator with an agenda. You are now part of a community. You are a person that gives and takes. Someone who makes the overall network stronger. <em><strong>And I guarantee that after a few weeks of actually participating in the community, you’ll have far better press connections than most of the PR people we deal with daily.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>I highlighted that last sentence because it is so stupid.  A few weeks?  Please.  It&#8217;s like telling an aspiring actress that all she has to do is go to Hollywood and hang out at a few cool places for a couple of weeks and she&#8217;ll have far better connections than most agents.</p>
<p>Other than that, it sounds like great advice.  And it is, for the most part.  But it&#8217;s unrealistic for many.  And it consistently spewed out views &#8211; seconded by many of the repondees that they&#8217;ve got in all under control as far as marketing goes.  I&#8217;ve seen many a crash and burn from those who take on this mindset.  That&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t think <em><strong>beyond </strong></em>the mindset.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s a shitload of competition out there to break through the noise, then there&#8217;s a shitload of competition to break through h noise.  Regardless of whom is getting out there amidst the conversations both online and off.</p>
<p>One intrepid PR person, a real fireball by the name of <a href="http://www.kelandpartners.com/">Kel Kelly</a>, came in and told it like it is:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Most of our clients are savvy, Web 2.0-based businesses and they come to us because the “blogosphere only” strategy failed miserably&#8230;</strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>&#8230;As for having the CEOs do it themselves, I encourage you to get your lips off the crack pipe and step away. Most of my CEOs don’t have time to scratch their ass never mind build and execute a blogosphere strategy or pitch, secure and manage a segment on The Today Show.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>Kel is my new best friend.  She hit that one out of the park. The problem with Arrington&#8217;s point is that applies to so few people.  It makes sense, but it often ain&#8217;t enough.</p>
<p>I nevertheless think he&#8217;s onto something in that entrepreneurs have to be their own evangelists.  But I&#8217;d say the best thing they could do is enlist the services of a seasoned PR professional that knows the lay of the land&#8230;meaning knows the niche industry that the start-up is entering, meaning the key media people and key blogs and bloggers.  A sherpa that acts as the initial guide.  Press releases aren&#8217;t needed.  Big pitches aren&#8217;t needed.  Or at least as much.  This type of person should be looked upon at &#8220;marketing/PR counsel&#8221;, just as an attorney is looked upon as being legal counsel.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the danger of doing a full fledged DIY strategy:</p>
<p><strong>Time </strong></p>
<p>If you remember, Kel said &#8220;Most of my CEOs don’t have time to scratch their ass never mind build and execute a blogosphere strategy or pitch, secure and manage a segment on The Today Show.&#8221;  Oh, yeah!</p>
<p>So true it&#8217;s laughable. Starting and running a business is hard work.  It&#8217;s a lot of work.  It takes boatloads of dedication and time.  Getting involved in online conversations and running one&#8217;s own blog is hard work.  It can be a lot of work,  It can take boatloads of dedication and time.</p>
<p>Entrepreneurs are human.  I&#8217;m going to stereotype, but most of the audience that we&#8217;re talking about here are relatively young (under 50).  A lot in their thirties.  Mostly men.  A lot of those have young families.  They work 10-15 hour days during the workweek and another 5-8 on a weekend day.  When they&#8217;re home, they&#8217;re going to want to spend time with their spouses and perhaps read their children a bedtime story &#8211; that&#8217;s if they&#8217;re home in time.  Spending another 1-3 hours a day reading online mags and blogs is going to be too much.  Some can do it.  Most can&#8217;t.</p>
<p><strong>Better Insight</strong></p>
<p>Timing is everything.  A PR person &#8211; a good one that is &#8211; can see trends coming down the pike.  They&#8217;ll know editorial calendars.  They&#8217;ll know when it&#8217;s too soon for this or a little late for that.  PR people can often get you in the right place at the right time.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll often know which event are worth checking out and which ones may be a waste of time and money.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll know what makes key editors and bloggers take notice.   The entrepreneur won&#8217;t.  Which brings me to my third point&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Hubris </strong></p>
<p>The reality is that, from what I&#8217;ve witnessed, the majority of people behind start ups fall overly in love with their products and/or services that they fail to realize that most other people won&#8217;t give a shit.  They overvalue the relative worth of what they&#8217;ve created. They&#8217;ll enter conversations all pumped and they won&#8217;t necessarily contribute the way they should.  They won&#8217;t &#8220;listen&#8221; that much.  They don&#8217;t understand that most people aren&#8217;t going to listen them as well.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll think that they should be featured in the today&#8217;s business section and on tomorrow&#8217;s Wall Street Journal.  A crafty PR person can cut through the hubris and blind enthusiasm and set the record straight.</p>
<p>Just like Kel Kelly did.</p>
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		<title>Aberdeen Research&#8217;s Key Points on Social Media Adoption</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that social media encompasses so much.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.
That&#8217;s why I wrote that latest post.  We seem, in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">social media encompasses so much</a>.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wrote <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">that latest post</a>.  We seem, in our attempts to define it, to be actually inadvertently limiting it.  Much of our call-to-change, if implemented, could result in ineffective disjointed efforts that lead to disappointment and even failure.</p>
<p>I just read a great report from Aberdeen Research, <a href="http://www.aberdeen.com/summary/report/benchmark/5195-RA-customer-20-social-media.asp">Customer 2.0: The Business Implications of Social Media</a>.  Aberdeen determined from its research that there were three levels of adoption,  <em><strong>Best in Class</strong></em> (20%) are those organizations whose practices are significantly superior to the industry standard, resulting in more successful implementation. <em><strong>Industry Average</strong></em> (50%) are exactly that.  Average adaptation, average performance. Laggards (30%) suffer from poor performance because of lower than average adaptation of social media.  Both Industry Average and Laggards are divided between companies that are looking to improve their standing and those that are apparently satisfied with their status quo or lack the vision to improve.</p>
<p>From the report I&#8217;m garnering several trends that are impacting levels of success&#8230;<span id="more-3156"></span></p>
<p><strong>Need for executive buy in should extend to culture change when needed</strong></p>
<p>Usually the need for executive buy in is something we take for granted.  If upper management is resistant to something, it&#8217;s not likely to happen.  In the study, that&#8217;s reaffirmed, but I noticed something more.</p>
<p>The buy in must extend to action.   Social media adoption can mean wholesale change. It can affect several departments.  Executive buy-in in the form of lip service is useless.</p>
<p>Case in point.  While almost two thirds of laggards (65%) say that Web 2.0 applications are a top two or of the highest priority, only 37% of them report that they&#8217;ve received full support from senior level management, and that only 13% of them have developed internal processes to implement, manage, and analyze the applications.  These are the companies that will soon be in the Industry Average category.  The other 87% aren&#8217;t so lucky.</p>
<p>The 65-37-13 discrepancy is telling.  It shows a significant detachment between what could be a stated vision and the will to carry it out.  It shows me that a large percentage of the Laggards are going to stay where they are.  One of the key factors that Aberdeen found, in the successful implementation of Web 2.0 applications is having established coordinated internal processes.  If only 13% of respondents say their organization has some sort of program in place, but yet 65% say that Web 2.0 is a priority, then a lot of the 37% of those leaders who are said to be supportive of Web 2.0 either aren&#8217;t, or they simply arent&#8217; doing their jobs.</p>
<p>Social media via Web 2.o applications is too cross-functional to be implemented department by department.  Sure, an organization can have <a href="http://twitter.com/comcastcares">a praised social media marketing effort</a>, but will that really change a <a href="http://comcastmustdie.com/">corporate culture</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Process implementation problems mean Steve Rubel&#8217;s prediction won&#8217;t come anytime soon. But still take heed.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>A couple of months ago, Steve Rubel <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008/03/three-internet.html">surmised</a> that the job title/descripiton of Social Media consultant will be going away in a few years.  He reasoned that as organizations become more Web 2.0 ready and adopt soicla media throughout the entity, the duties and responsibilities of the consultant will disperse as well&#8230;in fact they&#8217;ll disperse so much that they&#8217;ll dissipate when it comes to the defined role of a social media consultant.</p>
<p>I actually think he&#8217;s onto something in that today&#8217;s worker will be soon enough equipped with social media skills for fulfilling social media duties and responsibilities that today&#8217;s consultant will be quite different from tomorrow&#8217;s.  Setting up blog, wikis, and podcasts could easily be handled in house.</p>
<p>But if only 87% of Laggards,76% of Industry Average,  and  63% of Best in Class at this point  <strong>DO NOT</strong> have a process in place, then we a a long ways away from the death of the social media consultant.  But wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Social media agencies will have to become more full service.  They&#8217;ll have to adopt larger corporate practices that go beyond setting up Facebook accounts and reaching out to bloggers.  They&#8217;ll need to fully understand how a social media marketing effort effects sales and then how customer services must respond, by using social media by this (hopeful) increase in sales.  So social media strategist may be less hip, but in the end, more useful.</p>
<p><strong>Dedicated cross-functional  teams are needed, meaning the nexus of controlling responsibility must be fluid.</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in one of the company considered by a Laggard, you&#8217;ve got company.  Aberdeen found that 86% of the Laggards don&#8217;t have dedicated personnel to work on social media initiatives.  A few people working a few hours here and there.  That&#8217;s not going to work. Social media will be changing corporate and organizations culture.</p>
<p>In most organizations, social media will be implemented across several department that interact with customers or clients, vendors, investors, the media, and employees. The level of implementation of Web 2.0 applications will vary according to the size of the organization, the industry it is in, the specific needs of each department within the organization and with the organization as a whole.  The implementation of social media on a strategic level, with its technological components and human interaction focus means that it can&#8217;t be done on a cookie cutter basis.   Teams must be created knowing that their success depends on a large scale collaborative effort.</p>
<p>Collaboration means cooperation.  Each division will have its own needs, its own level of adoption and adaption.  Some of that adoption will be reliant on adoption as a whole.</p>
<p>Here again, is where I part with Jason Falls&#8217; belief that <a href="http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/07/18/social-media-is-the-responsibility-of-public-relations/">social media come under the control of public relations</a>. Internal leaders must develop and they must see across the entire enterprise.  But then again, <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/social-media-who-will-control-it/">I already wrote about that</a>.</p>
<p>More importantly, at this stage of the game, management must cultivate internal resources in creating great teams to lead the way into the age of social media.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. 
I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.  Its applications go far beyond the neat [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><span>With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.<span>  </span>Its applications go far beyond the neat capsules that can be used to pick a particular department or function that should “own” it.<span>  </span>Social media is creating, empowering, and accompanying a paradigm shift in the way we use all media.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Are we fully there yet?<span>  </span>Of course not.<span>  </span>These are only the early stages, part of an evolutionary process that often comes step by step.<span>  </span><span> </span>But those steps are happening and happening and soon we’ll look back and be amazed how far we’ve traveled.<span>  </span>Then before we know it again, we’ll be stepping again and look back again and we’ll be amazed how much we’ve come from that first time we looked back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Yes, organizations are going to have to harness social media in ways that they can benefit from, to reach ROI.<span>  </span>This means trying to create some sort of structure for it without “siloizing” it.<span>  </span>Very difficult indeed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I’ve tried to lay out what I see social media as.<span>  </span>Not from a specific definitional standpoint, but from a several miles up point of view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Interested in your feedback…</span><span id="more-3155"></span></p>
<p><strong><o:p> </o:p><br />
Social media can be a practice within itself</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media&#8217;s possibilities extend beyond any traditional established practice (advertising, PR, sales, etc.) to the point that it can be a practice within itself. It can be spread across many departments and, thus, will often need practitioners who can implement coordinated efforts within an organization. The strategic methods used will often have enough attributes on a stand alone basis that it shouldn’t come underneath the heading of another specific department.<span>  </span>I&#8217;d put social media on the same par as advertising and PR. Full service social media firms have sprouted up such as Abraham Harrison to meet today’s needs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be a service</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Because social media is still in its nascent stages, clients and potential clients don&#8217;t always need comprehensive solution packages. They may need to know how to set up a blog and how to get traffic for it. Simple as that. Helping a company to start a blog is a service. So is creating a podcast. Many clients look to cherry pick services to satisfy their needs.<span>  </span>For some in social media, providing a non-coordinated menu of services is where it&#8217;s at. While social media agencies are an emerging industry, there’s not widespread demand quite yet, leaving many practitioners as service providers.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is strategy based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A company decides to let go of some (but not all) control of its marketing communications message. <span> </span>It views its customers and users on a somewhat equal level and not as blocks of ears to be shouted at and throats to have messages shoved down.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another company uses blogs to work with customers to improve products or come up with new ones.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">These are strategic changes that are being implemented.<span>  </span>Social media can change the nature of an organization because it changes the way an organization looks at itself and its relationships with its stakeholders.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore the strategy behind social media empowers change like nothing else can.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is tactically based</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The many tools of social media can be designed to manage a problem or a series of problems.<span>  </span>That’s not something that necessarily changes an organization.<span>  </span>It’s can implemented based strictly upon need.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This can cause a lot of frustration amongst social media strategists as we see a lot of potential opportunities for business not being fulfilled.<span>  </span>For others, applying tactics itself is an opportunity.<span>  </span>A foot in the door.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is technology based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media can involve a host of technologies that are often complicated to learn and understand. <span> </span>Setting up RSS feeds, monitoring online conversations, designing a blog for better SEM, putting together a widget.<span>  </span>It takes technical know how to implement much of these.<span>  </span>And that’s a reason why so many ad agencies and especially PR firms have been resistant in adopting social media.</p>
<p>But the technology is constantly changing, adapting, growing, as is the myriad of ways they can be used for clients.<span>  </span>It often takes someone who is comfortable with technology to succeed.</p>
<p><strong>Social Media is theory based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Authenticity. Transparency. Community. Engagement. Listening. Give up some of your control.<span>  </span>All constantly espoused by social media strategists.<span>  </span>These are theories that often go against the grain of traditional thought.<span>  </span>More on engagement and less on contrived messaged, push on people.<span>  </span>This blog post is theoretical. The theories formulate the methodologies that are behind the practices and the services.</p>
<p>These theories are why so many of us blog and offer our opinions and commentaries.<span>  </span>It’s why we read one another’s blogs, friend one another on Facebook and follow one another on Twitter.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is rule based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Aren’t authentic or transparent?<span>  </span>Watch out!<span>  </span>You’re gonna get nailed by someone in the blogosphere and it will cost you.<span>  </span>An instant case study as to how NOT do something.<span>  </span>The rules of the game were collectively created and enforced.<span>  </span></p>
<p>We’ve seen traditional agencies, large and small, ignore these rules and push ahead with fake blogs and such.<span>  </span>Ask the folks at <strong>Edelman</strong> and <strong>Zipatoni</strong>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is anti-bureaucratic<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>This may be one of the most important points of all.<span>  </span>Because its capabilities go beyond the silos of the current corporate communications, because the public arena can embrace it as their own, because it is always changing, and because it involves giving up a serious amount of self control, social media bucks the bureaucratic structure within organizations while it fundamentally changes the relationship between the organization and its stakeholders.</p>
<p>Online as a whole can shift between advertising and PR, causing disruption.<span>  </span>Social media adds to this by bringing in customers, users, and in some cases, communities into the mix.<span>  </span>It resists authority when the authority becomes too controlling.<span>  </span>And authority usually wants control.</p>
<p>Organizational bureaucracies will be changing soon enough because of social media.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Again, I see social media as being often a separate animal from traditional PR and advertising. For that matter, online advertising itself first created that difference.<span>  </span>Social media extends that difference.<span>  </span>It has its own methodologies that are totally separate from offline advertising. The divisions here may not be silo based; but often the pool of knowledge for success in the social media arena can&#8217;t be found in traditional types.</p>
<p>Simply sticking it under a particular division within an organization can cause stifled growth as it will be badly nurtured by people with a particular preconceived mindset.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>It’s vertical in another manner as well.<span>  </span>And this is more of a prediction than a statement of the current conditions, but we will soon see more and more specialized firms pop up that will be geared toward certain segments of the population. <span> </span>Just as there are agencies that are geared toward the Latino market and PR firms that are geared toward the GLBT communities, we’ll see social media agencies that have developed the expertise in reaching out to certain segments of the population.<span>  </span>All you have to do is listen to the many mommy bloggers that complain about their constantly getting hit by pitches from agencies that have no clue on what it’s like being a mom. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From what we all hear, social media will have implications in advertising, public relations, sales, customer service, human resources, investor relations etc. It will take an enterprise wide strategy to implement all of that. And it will take an actual social media strategist who understands all of those departments and who understands the technologies behind social media to devise a plan for that enterprise. <span> </span>He or she will have to be strong enough to lead the way and manage a lot of personalities, but gentle enough to let each department blossom.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Outside organizations, agencies such as Abraham Harrison and others will continue to emerge and become successful because they will stay on the forefront of all that is happening and how it should be applied.<span>  </span>Companies won’t have the internal expertise nor will they have the time nor the personnel to implement cross functional social media strategies.</p>
<p>So, just as we see ad agencies and PR firms today, we’ll continue to see social media agencies.<span>  </span>There will definitely be a need for them.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is push<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, social media still allows you to deliver marketing messages. <span> </span>It can be the conversation starter.<span>  </span>A blog can be push as can a podcast.<span>  </span>Maybe this is obvious but I’ve heard so much talk about sitting back an listening I wanted to add this.<span>  </span>Yes, social media can be overtly promotional.<span>  </span>It just has to be done right.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is pull</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, listening is important.<span>  </span>Then engaging is important.<span>  </span>Done right it creates trust.<span>  </span>Trust is pull.<span>  </span>Pull is good.<span>  </span>Social media is good.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social Media can be web presence centric and dispersed at the same time<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">No need to dis the hub of a website. Core elements of an organization’s social media efforts can emanate from but then be dispersed throughout blogs, Flickr, YouTube, etc.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created from within<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is obvious.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created and enhanced by others<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The greatest threat.<span>  </span>The biggest fear.<span>  </span>The challenging factor that causes many an enterprise to resist, to delay implementations. <span> </span>But those on the outside aren’t waiting.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So to me, social media is so multi-dimensional that it can’t be easily defined in one definition, explained in a singular context, bottled up in a particular department.<o:p></o:p></p>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s take a look at the debate between Brian and Loic, point by point.
Point #1
Brian Solis:   Understand You’re Not the Only Story in Town
Loic:  Who cares about stories, you can get traction and users if you have a good product 
Where do I start?  First of all, Brian&#8217;s spot on in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F06%2F17%2Fthe-story-can-ignite-the-sizzle%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F06%2F17%2Fthe-story-can-ignite-the-sizzle%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Let&#8217;s take a look at the debate between Brian and Loic, point by point.</p>
<p>Point #1</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/25/pr-secrets-for-startups/">Brian Solis</a>:  <strong> Understand You’re Not the Only Story in Town<br />
</strong><a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html">Loic</a>:  <strong>Who cares about stories, you can get traction and users if you have a good product </strong></p>
<p>Where do I start?  First of all, Brian&#8217;s spot on in that many top executives in startups overvalue what the product or the service or whatever it is that they&#8217;re introducing.  They don&#8217;t understand that the battleground for attention from key influencers and potential customers is filled with other players battling for attention as well.  Sometimes it&#8217;s necessary to get someone to help craft a pathway through that battlefield, from someone one that understands which weapons and shields are needed.  How to break through that clutter.  Because on that very same battlefield are others looking for sweet victory as well. And that&#8217;s just the battle to get noticed.</p>
<p>Sometimes that&#8217;s having someone who can help craft and deliver a great story.</p>
<p>And, yes, sometimes, one of the best weapons is having established a blog and with that, a burgeoning community.  Loic has done that and kudos to him for that.  He is a great example of what he&#8217;s writing about.</p>
<p>Some of those competitors on the battlefield may not be direct competitors in business.  No matter.  They are still competing for mindshare of the audience a startup wants to reach.</p>
<p>CEOs need to understand this.  They&#8217;ve worked their tails off for a significant period of time to produce something.  That&#8217;s quite an accomplishment in itself.  But many automatically think that whatever they&#8217;ve produce &#8220;sells itself&#8221; that it&#8217;s a &#8220;no-brainer&#8221; causing people to automatically understand why they should buy it.  This is called hubris.</p>
<p>Hubris kills.  For example, a trivia question.  Guess who said this last fall:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong> &#8220;I’m in it for the long run. It’s not a very long run. It will be over by February 5.”*</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>History is filled with failed startups let by overconfident individuals that failed to realize they need some sort of marketing plan to get the word out, to position the product, to clarify key features and benefits.    They decided to start companies and then implemented  marketing as an afterthought.  In other words, their companies have no stories.</p>
<p>While the atmosphere is much better today, I&#8217;ve seen decision makers that refuse to get this.  It&#8217;s as if they seemingly believe that press rooms of major business publications had fax rooms where eager young interns hang out excitedly to retrieve their press releases and run to the editors with all of your important info. If you lack a story &#8211; and a decent product &#8211; it&#8217;s much more difficult to gain traction.</p>
<p>No, Loic, good stories are often needed.  Stories can explain complex products.  Stories can differentiate between competitors.  Stories can offer insight that go beyond a series of sentences on a press release.  Just as blog posts can.  Blogging and trying to develop a community can  work &#8211; but not really in time to help that start up.  Unless they&#8217;re already a know quality like you.  It also helps when you have a Web 2.0 type service that connects people such as Seesmic.</p>
<p>A second major point regarding Loic&#8217;s comments is that not all good products can get traction.  Just as not every great guitarist gets that major record deal, just as not every great aspiring actress gets the big break, not every great product gets noticed. There are a bunch of factors that influence success.  As Jim Kurkral <a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html#comment-529232">commented</a> on Loic&#8217;s post, &#8220;Even people with great products can still fail getting coverage.&#8221;  Coverage in industry press, coverage in mainstream press, coverage in blogs.  Nor will all creators of great bloggers be able to form online communities.</p>
<p>For that matter, not every product that meet with success is of top quality.  Sometimes it&#8217;s luck. Previous reputation.  Timing.  Or a great story.</p>
<p>*Trivia answer: Hillary Clinton, (self)presumptive nominee for the Democratic Party in the U.S. Presidential race, describing how quickly she&#8217;ll win the nomination.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the past two months I&#8217;ve been in a mental funk when it comes to blogging.  Maybe it&#8217;s because I got caught up a bit too much following the political primary season and felt that I&#8217;d end up focusing too much on politics.
But now I have Brian Solis, Loic Le Meur, and Robert Scoble [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F06%2F17%2Fone-mans-secret-is-another-mans-bullshit%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F06%2F17%2Fone-mans-secret-is-another-mans-bullshit%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>For the past two months I&#8217;ve been in a mental funk when it comes to blogging.  Maybe it&#8217;s because I got caught up a bit too much following the political primary season and felt that I&#8217;d end up focusing too much on politics.</p>
<p>But now I have Brian Solis, Loic Le Meur, and Robert Scoble to thank for getting me back into the game.</p>
<p>Perhaps the one I should thank the most is Loic because I found much of what he wrote in response to Brian&#8217;s TechCrunch article to be misdirected toward his own experiences.</p>
<p>It started with Brian&#8217;s May 25 article in TechCrunch <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/25/pr-secrets-for-startups/">&#8220;PR Secrets for Startups&#8221;</a>.  Now that  headline itself is a bit silly as it sounds as if it&#8217;s a headline used in an overhyped industry rag, but the meat of the artilce is pretty much straightforward. He doesn&#8217;t lay out secrets at all, just sound advice.  And while I don&#8217;t agree with the fine line depicted between PR 1.0 and PR 2.0, but there is no question that all of strategic marketing communications is undergoing a transformation and that the internet &#8211; and social media in particular &#8211; are playing key roles in that.</p>
<p>In the article, Brian outlines a series of points that serve a great guideline for most younger startups.  Loic tells us that Brian has many valid point in his post and that Brian knows what he&#8217;s talking about and that he really likes Brian and then he proceeds to write that  what Brian is saying is bullshit.</p>
<p>Well, I like Loic and think he has many valid points and he knows what he&#8217;s talking about, but what Loic is saying is bullshit.  Loic&#8217;s advice is correct for a finite amount of CEOs and a finite amount of startups from a finite amount of industries.  It&#8217;s solid advice in certain circumstances.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start out with Loic&#8217;s major point:</p>
<p><em><strong>Get a community and focus on your friends is the way to go.</strong></em></p>
<p>Good grief.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that this is directly wrong, it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s ridiculous in that it&#8217;s a practically impossible to accomplish task to achieve in the amount of time needed to boost a start up. In fact, formulating one&#8217;s own community can be as difficult as successfully launching a start up in the first place.     Establishing a community can take years &#8211; Loic himself talks of how it took him eight years &#8211; and there&#8217;s no guarantee that the community will stick.</p>
<p>Most prominent blogger don&#8217;t have communities. They may think they do, but they don&#8217;t.  They have  readers instead. Most companies don&#8217;t have communities. They have customers.  Most products and services don&#8217;t have communities.  They have users.  Cultivating a community is similar to cultivating a loyal customer base&#8230;only more difficult.  It takes time, it takes energy, it takes a special touch.  More often than not, it&#8217;s an elusive accomplishment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as if one can go down to the local K-Mart and buy a community &#8211; as if it comes in a box &#8211; one that&#8217;s on sale this week only for the low price of $79.95 &#8211; twenty dollars of the regular price of $99.95.<br />
<img src="http://merwin.bespin.org/blogpics/StaplesEasyButtonSmall.jpg" alt="Where can I get one?" /><br />
No, there&#8217;s no Easy Button to press in getting a community.  As commenter <a href="http://www.stagetwoconsulting.com">Jeremy Toeman</a> <a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html#comment-528541">points out</a> &#8220;Loic, I think your assessment is fairly biased to your personal experience. The truth is most companies and individuals aren&#8217;t nearly as well connected as you are, and to just dismiss PR by saying &#8220;just go build a community&#8221; is frankly, naive.&#8221;  Which is <a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html#comment-528755">soon followed</a> by Vinh, &#8220;Where can i get a community? Is it expensive? What happens if I need audience now?&#8221;  Bingo.</p>
<p>Loic himself proves the difficulty in establishing a community by writing &#8220;I took me 8 years since I started blogging in 2003 to have a community and it is no marketing.&#8221; First of all, he&#8217;s so exhausted from establishing that community that he&#8217;s added wrong.  It&#8217;s either 5 years since 2003 or 8 years since 2000.  Whether it&#8217;s 5 or 8 (and I believe it&#8217;s 8), that&#8217;s way to long of a time period for a CEO to wait to effectively kick in as he or she is launching a startup.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.centernetworks.com">Allen Stern</a> has two great comments regarding Loic&#8217;s claim&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html#comment-528191">First</a>, he points out that it takes more than a desire to have a community to actually accomplish the huge task of establishing a community. &#8220;Loic &#8211; it&#8217;s important to remember that not everyone has the &#8220;instant-on&#8221; connections you do today. While I agree with what you are suggesting about a community completely &#8211; not everyone has &#8220;instant-on&#8221; that you do.&#8221;   He follow this with a <a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/05/pr-secrets-bull.html#comment-528321">clear statement of total sense</a>. &#8220;This is why I suggest you work on building your network while you build your startup. Don&#8217;t expect to finish your product and have a network ready to launch it for you.&#8221;  Words of wisdom.</p>
<p>The reality is that the essence of community building is something that&#8217;s often elusive.  One needs talent, time, luck, and a topic or series or topics that engender an interaction amongst readers.  That&#8217;s rare indeed.  Loic has been able to establish this over several years through hard work, a warm and colorul personality, and an effective writing style.  He also benefits from the fact that he&#8217;s launched a company that, at its core, is at the heart of social media.</p>
<p>Community is one of the most dangerously overused terms in social media.  It&#8217;s often bandied about by people who treat the subject matter as if communities already exist or are readily available.  And this then underplays the importance &#8211; and the essence of community.</p>
<p>Next, I&#8217;ll look to take on the Brian vs. Loic debate point by point.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post, I talked of the coming disruption of the three way relationship between marketer, agency, and media property. Essentially it centers on the idea that marketers (who are often behind themselves) are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the lack of digital savvy of their agencies and are now turning to media properties for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F06%2Fa-dilemma-for-the-marketer-agency-media-relationship%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F06%2Fa-dilemma-for-the-marketer-agency-media-relationship%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>In my <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/03/05/the-disintermediating-of-agencies/">last post</a>, I talked of the coming disruption of the three way relationship between marketer, agency, and media property. Essentially it centers on the idea that marketers (who are often behind themselves) are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the lack of digital savvy of their agencies and are now turning to media properties for strategic ideas and creative capabiliites.  And these media properties are making themselves all the more ready, willing, and able to carry out the needs and wishes of the marketers.</p>
<p>I believe that that&#8217;s happening.  But there&#8217;s still a big problem with that model.  Consistent brand messaging</p>
<p>On a micro-level, this new way of doing things makes perfect sense.  Crafting an marketing campaign tailored to the offerings of an online property could maximize the effectiveness of the campaign itself.  For that media property.</p>
<p>But last I looked, most advertisers don&#8217;t use all their spend on one property.  They&#8217;ll pick many properties in many channels.  They&#8217;ll test here and there.  They&#8217;ll sometimes concentrate on branding, sometimes concentrate on direct , sometimes (and the web makes this more possible, concentrate on both.</p>
<p>If the marketer &#8211; the company that is the end client &#8211; has to tailor each of its marketing messages to that of the publisher, chaos could result.</p>
<p>Publishers will need to realize this and further expand their services, sort of becoming almost full service for their advertisers.  But still, this still could run into brand confusion as each publisher will owe it to their paying client to create the most effective campaign for their specific property or properties, leaving potentially different and confusing brand messages across several media properties.</p>
<p>Wise agencies should see this as the window of opportunity and work with publishers before they even get clients to formulate the framework for effective marketing  campaigns that can perform very effectively over a cross section of properties and platforms.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just asked a question via Twitter.  And I&#8217;ll repeat it here.
 			  Question for social media types&#8230;many complain about interference from legal dept. when it comes to social media, especially with UGC&#8230;so, are there any conferences, events, seminars, etc. that bring the two groups together to understand one another more? 			 						 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F02%2Fmarketing-and-legal-need-to-work-together%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F02%2Fmarketing-and-legal-need-to-work-together%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I just <a href="http://twitter.com/jptrenn/statuses/765484457">asked</a> a <a href="http://twitter.com/jptrenn/statuses/765484633">question </a>via Twitter.  And I&#8217;ll repeat it here.</p>
<p><span class="entry-title entry-content"> 			  </span><em><span class="entry-title entry-content">Question for social media types&#8230;many complain about interference from legal dept. when it comes to social media, especially with UGC</span><span class="entry-title entry-content">&#8230;so, are there any conferences, events, seminars, etc. that bring the two groups together to understand one another more? 			</span><span class="meta entry-meta"> 						  <a href="http://twitter.com/jptrenn/statuses/765484633" class="entry-date" rel="bookmark"><abbr class="published" title="2008-03-01T23:13:38+00:00"></abbr></a><span id="status_actions_765484633">  </span></span></em></p>
<p>Not to toot my own horn, but that&#8217;s a good question.  And it&#8217;s one that needs to be answered.</p>
<p>Marketers are essentially  in charge of defining, promoting, enhancing, and protecting the brand.  Lawyers are essentially in charge of protecting the entity, the business, and, yes, the brand.</p>
<p>I got to thinking about this because social media strategists often, as part of their strategy, enlist, encourage, or allow a brands users to play a role in the branding.  I got to thinking of a recent story involving a group of car enthusiasts putting together a picture calendar showing off their cars.  They calendars were to be sold on CafePress.  But there was some sort of communication screw up and it was halted I believe.  Some social media strategists mistakenly blamed the car company.</p>
<p>But then I thought&#8230;wait&#8230;if the legal department did have reservations in this situation, is that necessarily a bad thing?  Think about it&#8230;.</p>
<p>What if one of the participants of an unsolicited consumer generated media effort has let&#8217;s say a problem.  Like a police record.  I mean, let&#8217;s say he&#8217;s the type of guy who could get nailed by Chris Hansen of Nightline.  You know, a pedophile.</p>
<p>Ridiculous?  If you think so, you&#8217;re missing the point.  The point is that legal department and marketing departments are going to have to understand one another and work together to both reasonably promote and protect the brand through social media.  Cutting edge vs. overly cautious won&#8217;t do.  Lawyer potentially nixing or at least getting in the way of potentially effective programs or frustrated marketing types angrily rolling their eyes at the stupidity and interference of the legal department will only serve to stifle the brand, or, potentially worse, leave it unprotected.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s the Road to Firebrand Monday</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[

Yeah, I know.  You hate commercials.  You hate the sudden interruption of your favorite show to see three, four, or five thirty-second poorly created hard-to-differentiate video presentations on a product you don&#8217;t like, don&#8217;t want, don&#8217;t need, or don&#8217;t use.
Me too.
You want to get back to the show, the game, the newscast.  [...]]]></description>
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</center>Yeah, I know.  You hate commercials.  You hate the sudden interruption of your favorite show to see three, four, or five thirty-second poorly created hard-to-differentiate video presentations on a product you don&#8217;t like, don&#8217;t want, don&#8217;t need, or don&#8217;t use.</p>
<p>Me too.</p>
<p>You want to get back to the show, the game, the newscast.  See the bad guy get his ass nailed, the final two minutes of the tight game, or news on the latest scoop on the election cycle.  The last thing you want to see is a series of presentations about pills that can make you pee better, a car that supposedly makes you cool, and a law firm that chases ambulances.</p>
<p>Me too.</p>
<p>But every once and a while, you&#8217;ll watch something that will catch your eye.  It will make you laugh.  Chuckle inside.  You&#8217;ll be able to relate to it.  Or you&#8217;ll be impressed because it&#8217;s impressive, not because the commercial is trying to pretend that it&#8217;s impressive with itself.  Or you&#8217;ll think, shit, how did they do that?</p>
<p>Me too.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s what happens, then that&#8217;s a commercial that will likely end up on <a href="http://www.firebrand.com/">Firebrand</a>.</p>
<p><span id="more-2988"></span><a href="http://marketingconversation.com/wp-admin/">Firebrand </a> is a client of ours.  We&#8217;re proud to have them.  They&#8217;re a new media outlet &#8211; literally.   We&#8217;re proud to have them.  They&#8217;re a new media outlet &#8211; literally.  They&#8217;re on the web at &#8216;re on the web at<a href="http://marketingconversation.com/wp-admin/"> </a><a href="http://www.firebrand.com/">http://www.firebrand.com </a>and on the ION network on cable in 95 million homes.   They seek out and get the world&#8217;s best commercials and play them, MTV style.  From the States, Britain, Malaysia, Canada, Australia, India.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s talk football.  Let&#8217;s talk the Super Bowl.  I could go off on a tangent and first talk about the great commercials, but I&#8217;m a lifelong fanatical New England Patriots fan so to me, this Sunday means football.  I had to get that in.Allright,  so lets&#8217;s talk about those about great commercials that the Super Bowl is known for.  They get plenty of press beforehand.  People do stop and watch them and they then talk about them the next day.  They remember them.  And they wish that all TV ads were that good.</p>
<p align="left">We&#8217;ll, this week Firebrand will be celebrating ads of Super Bowls past all week long.  Then on Monday, February 4th, they&#8217;ll be hosting &#8220;Firebrand Monday&#8221;, showing all the ads from the previous day&#8217;s Big Game.   Viewers will be treated to the likes of Terry Tate, Office Linebacker and Carmen Electra</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the lineup for the week.</p>
<p>Monday January 28th: &#8220;BIG TIME ATHLETES&#8221; in classic Big Game commercials</p>
<p>Tuesday January 29th: &#8220;BIG BUDGET PRODUCTIONS&#8221; for classic Big Game commercials</p>
<p>Wed January 30th: &#8220;CHICKS IN CHARGE&#8221; in classic Big Game commercials</p>
<p>Thursday January 31st: &#8220;BIG TIME CELEBRITIES&#8221; in classic Big Game commercials</p>
<p>Friday February 1st: &#8220;BIG TIME BRANDS&#8221; in classic Big Game commercials</p>
<p>Monday  February  4th: IT&#8217;S FIREBRAND MONDAY, THE DAY AFTER THE BIG GAME – CELEBRATE THE HOLIEST DAY IN ADVERTISING WITH THE OFFICE LINEBACKER, CARMEN ELEKTRA AND CLASSIC BIG GAME COMMERCIALS!</p>
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		<title>al Queda is getting into a little Web 2.0</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going to write a blog post on this but the CNN article cover this pretty well.
In December, al Queda&#8217;s media arm Al-Sahab said on their website that al Queda #2  Ayman al-Zawahiri would be taking questions from its, uh, community.  And that he&#8217;d get back to us all and answer them.
The article is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F22%2Fal-queda-is-getting-into-a-little-web-20%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F22%2Fal-queda-is-getting-into-a-little-web-20%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I was going to write a blog post on this but the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/21/ask.alqaeda.ap/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular">CNN article</a> cover this pretty well.</p>
<p>In December, al Queda&#8217;s media arm Al-Sahab said on their website that al Queda #2  Ayman al-Zawahiri would be taking questions from its, uh, community.  And that he&#8217;d get back to us all and answer them.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/21/ask.alqaeda.ap/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular">article</a> is impressive as are some of the questions &#8211; even though they are abhorrent.</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t figure out why we can&#8217;t find these guys and eliminate them.</p>
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