Jeremy Pepper just wrote a blog post entitled Can I can get a big cup of STFU please? that you should read.  The long story short is that  social media is just one part of public relations and that everything really hinges on relationships and connections:

The fact is that social media is ONE part of public relations. A SMALL part, if you are a good PR person or firm. The other parts are traditional media (while it might be shrinking, it still reaches that middle part of the country), analyst relations, events, and more.

PR is about relationships. It’s about relationships so much that Lowe’s went to Abraham Harrison for it’s recent project because of its relationships with people at Lowe and because of their relationships with bloggers. See - it’s about relationships.

It’s also about writing, about talking, about conveying a story. But, without those relationships, there’s nothing there. And, unfortunately, with the industry’s reliance on technology - let’s email, let’s launch a blog, let’s get Twitter, let’s do this and that … well, you’re failing in PR.

PS: thanks for the shout out, Mr. Jeremy Pepper. Oh, and thank you Lowe for giving us a go.

Leo Bottary, SVP at Mullen, asked a pretty great question over on LinkedIn, What motivated you to learn about social media?  I took a stab at answering in my own way:

I came to social media PR the other way around. I have been online since the world of the bulletin board systems (BBS) and the Well, later in the 90s. I have been a deep member of social networks forever. Anyway, in 2003 I became a social media marketer at New Media Strategies and then moved onto Edelman.

Now, I am a social media native-speaker learning more and more PR and marketing practices.

So, I guess my question is, what motivated you to wait so long? Social media and online social networks have been alive and well since at least the early 80s in the form of message boards, forums, USENET, MUDs, MOOs, and IRC.

My fear is is that there will be loads of PR practitioners who will only invest in social media and online community because they have to and not because they’re passionate about it. I think this will all change when people stop making as much of a big deal about online social media and just take the mad communications and relationship skills and passions and just map them onto another forum: the Internet.

Why can’t PR practitioners do this? Short answer: “we” don’t consider all of those voices and all of those people and all of that text to be connected to real, powerful, and passionate people.

Leo, thanks so much for asking this question. I don’t know if I answered but I am happy to have thought through it.

So, what motivated you to learn about social media? Also, what motivated you to go into marketing or PR, if that’s what you do with yourself these days?

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With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees.

I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition. Its applications go far beyond the neat capsules that can be used to pick a particular department or function that should “own” it. Social media is creating, empowering, and accompanying a paradigm shift in the way we use all media.

Are we fully there yet? Of course not. These are only the early stages, part of an evolutionary process that often comes step by step. But those steps are happening and happening and soon we’ll look back and be amazed how far we’ve traveled. Then before we know it again, we’ll be stepping again and look back again and we’ll be amazed how much we’ve come from that first time we looked back.

Yes, organizations are going to have to harness social media in ways that they can benefit from, to reach ROI. This means trying to create some sort of structure for it without “siloizing” it. Very difficult indeed.

I’ve tried to lay out what I see social media as. Not from a specific definitional standpoint, but from a several miles up point of view.

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Point #2
Brian: Pick the Right Person or Team to Lead PR
Loic: Do not pick a PR person, be the spokesperson of the company

These two points aren’t diametrically opposed, but Brian’s point is more universal -pick the right person - and therefore more applicable than Loic’s. While a lot of CEOs understand marketing or PR, many don’t. That’s especially true of startups. See point #1. Some CEOs haven’t developed the ability to have coherent marketing themed conversations, be they to the media or on blogs. That’s because many can be overtly promotional as opposed to evangelical when they’re put on the spot. Or they may be technology focused and struggle to explain things in layman’s terms.

General comments such as “The best person to represent the company is not a PR person and even less an external one. It is YOU. You, the founder, you the CEO” are way off because it’s a blanket theory that doesn’t apply to everyone. Not everyone is a longtime blogger who’s developed his (or her) own community and is starting a Web 2.0 company that produces a service that applies to social media. Some CEOs don’t want the responsibility. Some don’t have the time. Some don’t have the patience. Or the desire. Or the capability to do it effectively. It’s a simplistic statement and concept. It’s not directly wrong. But it just isn’t applicable the majority of the time. Perhaps its more common in Web 2.0 companies that produce a service that applies to social media, but for most starups - most tech startups - the label doesn’t apply.

But Loic does have a point. It should be a responsibility of a PR firm to prepare a CEO for the PR challenges they will face. That’s because while a PR rep can act as a spokesperson for a company, the CEO will become the face of the company. And faces have mouths and mouths speak. If the CEO is not willing to become a chief evangelist of the company, then that company may have a problem.

CEOs need to understand the marketplace, the types of media that covers their industry, the types of communities that can develop. Then they have to have almost an innate understanding of how to talk to them. They often have to receive some sort of PR training. And then they have to learn how to evangelize, not promote. How to balance the concepts of features and benefits. How to put the listener first. Hiring a PR firm can make that happen more easily. Not always, but more often than not.

For the past two months I’ve been in a mental funk when it comes to blogging. Maybe it’s because I got caught up a bit too much following the political primary season and felt that I’d end up focusing too much on politics.

But now I have Brian Solis, Loic Le Meur, and Robert Scoble to thank for getting me back into the game.

Perhaps the one I should thank the most is Loic because I found much of what he wrote in response to Brian’s TechCrunch article to be misdirected toward his own experiences.

It started with Brian’s May 25 article in TechCrunch “PR Secrets for Startups”. Now that headline itself is a bit silly as it sounds as if it’s a headline used in an overhyped industry rag, but the meat of the artilce is pretty much straightforward. He doesn’t lay out secrets at all, just sound advice. And while I don’t agree with the fine line depicted between PR 1.0 and PR 2.0, but there is no question that all of strategic marketing communications is undergoing a transformation and that the internet - and social media in particular - are playing key roles in that.

In the article, Brian outlines a series of points that serve a great guideline for most younger startups. Loic tells us that Brian has many valid point in his post and that Brian knows what he’s talking about and that he really likes Brian and then he proceeds to write that what Brian is saying is bullshit.

Well, I like Loic and think he has many valid points and he knows what he’s talking about, but what Loic is saying is bullshit. Loic’s advice is correct for a finite amount of CEOs and a finite amount of startups from a finite amount of industries. It’s solid advice in certain circumstances.

I’ll start out with Loic’s major point:

Get a community and focus on your friends is the way to go.

Good grief.

It’s not that this is directly wrong, it’s that it’s ridiculous in that it’s a practically impossible to accomplish task to achieve in the amount of time needed to boost a start up. In fact, formulating one’s own community can be as difficult as successfully launching a start up in the first place. Establishing a community can take years - Loic himself talks of how it took him eight years - and there’s no guarantee that the community will stick.

Most prominent blogger don’t have communities. They may think they do, but they don’t. They have readers instead. Most companies don’t have communities. They have customers. Most products and services don’t have communities. They have users. Cultivating a community is similar to cultivating a loyal customer base…only more difficult. It takes time, it takes energy, it takes a special touch. More often than not, it’s an elusive accomplishment.

It’s not as if one can go down to the local K-Mart and buy a community - as if it comes in a box - one that’s on sale this week only for the low price of $79.95 - twenty dollars of the regular price of $99.95.
Where can I get one?
No, there’s no Easy Button to press in getting a community. As commenter Jeremy Toeman points out “Loic, I think your assessment is fairly biased to your personal experience. The truth is most companies and individuals aren’t nearly as well connected as you are, and to just dismiss PR by saying “just go build a community” is frankly, naive.” Which is soon followed by Vinh, “Where can i get a community? Is it expensive? What happens if I need audience now?” Bingo.

Loic himself proves the difficulty in establishing a community by writing “I took me 8 years since I started blogging in 2003 to have a community and it is no marketing.” First of all, he’s so exhausted from establishing that community that he’s added wrong. It’s either 5 years since 2003 or 8 years since 2000. Whether it’s 5 or 8 (and I believe it’s 8), that’s way to long of a time period for a CEO to wait to effectively kick in as he or she is launching a startup.

Allen Stern has two great comments regarding Loic’s claim…

First, he points out that it takes more than a desire to have a community to actually accomplish the huge task of establishing a community. “Loic - it’s important to remember that not everyone has the “instant-on” connections you do today. While I agree with what you are suggesting about a community completely - not everyone has “instant-on” that you do.” He follow this with a clear statement of total sense. “This is why I suggest you work on building your network while you build your startup. Don’t expect to finish your product and have a network ready to launch it for you.” Words of wisdom.

The reality is that the essence of community building is something that’s often elusive. One needs talent, time, luck, and a topic or series or topics that engender an interaction amongst readers. That’s rare indeed. Loic has been able to establish this over several years through hard work, a warm and colorul personality, and an effective writing style. He also benefits from the fact that he’s launched a company that, at its core, is at the heart of social media.

Community is one of the most dangerously overused terms in social media. It’s often bandied about by people who treat the subject matter as if communities already exist or are readily available. And this then underplays the importance - and the essence of community.

Next, I’ll look to take on the Brian vs. Loic debate point by point.