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		<title>USA Network&#8217;s VP of Digital Strategy and Development,  Jesse Redniss Talks Abouts the Consumers, Digital Environment and Engagement!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[USA Networks is about to launch next season premieres for 3 different series in January: Burn Notice, Psych and White Collar (OMG.. set those DVR&#8217;s now!). What and how will this change the online environment and the digital environment of the sites that comprise USA Networks which include Character Arcade and The Clik Blog ratchets [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2010%2F01%2F10%2Fusa-networks-vp-of-digital-strategy-and-development-jesse-redniss-talks-abouts-the-consumers-digital-environment-and-engagement%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2010%2F01%2F10%2Fusa-networks-vp-of-digital-strategy-and-development-jesse-redniss-talks-abouts-the-consumers-digital-environment-and-engagement%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/">USA Networks </a></strong>is about to launch next season premieres for 3 different series in January: <strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/index.html">Burn Notice</a>, <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/index.html">Psych </a></strong>and <strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecollar/index.html">White Collar</a></strong> (<a class="zem_slink" title="Object Management Group" rel="homepage" href="http://www.omg.org/">OMG</a>.. set those <a class="zem_slink" title="Digital video recorder" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_video_recorder">DVR</a>&#8217;s now!). What and how will this change the online environment and the digital environment of the sites that comprise USA Networks which include <strong><a href="http://www.characterarcade.com/">Character Arcade</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://theclik.characterarcade.com/">The Clik Blog</a></strong> ratchets up the visibility of the network and their shows.</p>
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<p>The <strong><a class="zem_slink" title="USA Network" rel="homepage" href="http://www.usanetwork.com/">USA Network</a> site</strong> features full-length episodes of each show and also provides lots of background information on characters, actors and more. Also they have create <a class="zem_slink" title="Oh My Goddess!" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess%21">aa</a> great collection of show-oriented games and mind-bender sites tnat will immerse you more into the world of the various shows.</p>
<p>Want to explore more games ? Check out <strong><a href="http://www.characterarcade.com/">Character Arcade</a></strong> . This <strong><a href="http://theclik.characterarcade.com/game-types/other/holiday-hiatus-blues.php">Holiday Hiatus Blues</a></strong> post is filled with suggestions of various games including mobile applicatiions.</p>
<p>Luckily to explain what the digital division has done for 2009 and where it&#8217;s going in 2010, is <strong>Vice President, <a class="zem_slink" title="Digital strategy" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_strategy">Digital Strategy</a> &amp; Development, <a class="zem_slink" title="NBC Universal" rel="homepage" href="http://www.nbcuni.com/">NBC Universal</a>, USA Network Jesse Redniss. </strong>spent some time talking to us about this very subject and a lot more &#8212; almost 30 minutes of chat time.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.la-story.com/upload/2010/01/usa_networks_vp_of_digital_strategy_and_developmen/jesse-redniss.jpg" alt="jesse-redniss.jpg" width="326" height="396" /></p>
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<p>Redniss understands the power of the web and how it interfaces with the USA network and how to leverage it to best make use of the consumer interface. He provided a great deal of insight regarding the direction of USA&#8217;s network dramas as well as the online experience of forums, games and other initiatives like <strong><a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/">Characters Unite</a></strong>-which is a partnership with charitable organizations along with <strong><a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/town-hall">Tom Brokaw&#8217;s town hall meeting</a> </strong>and others to work on fostering a change and congruence on a variety of issues in the world today. The <strong>Characters Unite</strong> initiative started in 2009 and will be a huge focal point in 2010. Surf this site and take the <a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/#/the_pledge">Pledge</a>!</p>
<p>Other things to note about USA Networks is <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/greenusa/">GreenUSA</a>. Check out the <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/greenusa/ecoist/index.html">Eco-ist Corner </a>for tips, tricks and the entire site for more ways to go green and help the environment.</p>
<p>Other places mentioned within the podcast to check out include<br />
<a href="http://onstar.usanetwork.com/"><strong>Burn Notice Game with Fiona</strong></a><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/video/spytips/index.html">Ask a Spy</a></strong></p>
<p>Thank you to Jesse Redniss for his time and tons of information. Also thank you to USA Network and Electric Artists for making this podcast happen!</p>
<p>Stevie Wilson, LA-Story.com<br />
<strong>Stevie Wilson</strong> writes the <a href="http://www.LA-Story.com">www.LA-Story.com</a> blog and is Chief Marketing Officer &amp; Partner, KBP Inc, a privately held corporation dealing in multi-media, real estate developments, internet start-ups and new media marketing strategy.</p>
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		<title>Aberdeen Research&#8217;s Key Points on Social Media Adoption</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that social media encompasses so much.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.
That&#8217;s why I wrote that latest post.  We seem, in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">social media encompasses so much</a>.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wrote <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">that latest post</a>.  We seem, in our attempts to define it, to be actually inadvertently limiting it.  Much of our call-to-change, if implemented, could result in ineffective disjointed efforts that lead to disappointment and even failure.</p>
<p>I just read a great report from Aberdeen Research, <a href="http://www.aberdeen.com/summary/report/benchmark/5195-RA-customer-20-social-media.asp">Customer 2.0: The Business Implications of Social Media</a>.  Aberdeen determined from its research that there were three levels of adoption,  <em><strong>Best in Class</strong></em> (20%) are those organizations whose practices are significantly superior to the industry standard, resulting in more successful implementation. <em><strong>Industry Average</strong></em> (50%) are exactly that.  Average adaptation, average performance. Laggards (30%) suffer from poor performance because of lower than average adaptation of social media.  Both Industry Average and Laggards are divided between companies that are looking to improve their standing and those that are apparently satisfied with their status quo or lack the vision to improve.</p>
<p>From the report I&#8217;m garnering several trends that are impacting levels of success&#8230;<span id="more-3156"></span></p>
<p><strong>Need for executive buy in should extend to culture change when needed</strong></p>
<p>Usually the need for executive buy in is something we take for granted.  If upper management is resistant to something, it&#8217;s not likely to happen.  In the study, that&#8217;s reaffirmed, but I noticed something more.</p>
<p>The buy in must extend to action.   Social media adoption can mean wholesale change. It can affect several departments.  Executive buy-in in the form of lip service is useless.</p>
<p>Case in point.  While almost two thirds of laggards (65%) say that Web 2.0 applications are a top two or of the highest priority, only 37% of them report that they&#8217;ve received full support from senior level management, and that only 13% of them have developed internal processes to implement, manage, and analyze the applications.  These are the companies that will soon be in the Industry Average category.  The other 87% aren&#8217;t so lucky.</p>
<p>The 65-37-13 discrepancy is telling.  It shows a significant detachment between what could be a stated vision and the will to carry it out.  It shows me that a large percentage of the Laggards are going to stay where they are.  One of the key factors that Aberdeen found, in the successful implementation of Web 2.0 applications is having established coordinated internal processes.  If only 13% of respondents say their organization has some sort of program in place, but yet 65% say that Web 2.0 is a priority, then a lot of the 37% of those leaders who are said to be supportive of Web 2.0 either aren&#8217;t, or they simply arent&#8217; doing their jobs.</p>
<p>Social media via Web 2.o applications is too cross-functional to be implemented department by department.  Sure, an organization can have <a href="http://twitter.com/comcastcares">a praised social media marketing effort</a>, but will that really change a <a href="http://comcastmustdie.com/">corporate culture</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Process implementation problems mean Steve Rubel&#8217;s prediction won&#8217;t come anytime soon. But still take heed.<br />
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<p>A couple of months ago, Steve Rubel <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008/03/three-internet.html">surmised</a> that the job title/descripiton of Social Media consultant will be going away in a few years.  He reasoned that as organizations become more Web 2.0 ready and adopt soicla media throughout the entity, the duties and responsibilities of the consultant will disperse as well&#8230;in fact they&#8217;ll disperse so much that they&#8217;ll dissipate when it comes to the defined role of a social media consultant.</p>
<p>I actually think he&#8217;s onto something in that today&#8217;s worker will be soon enough equipped with social media skills for fulfilling social media duties and responsibilities that today&#8217;s consultant will be quite different from tomorrow&#8217;s.  Setting up blog, wikis, and podcasts could easily be handled in house.</p>
<p>But if only 87% of Laggards,76% of Industry Average,  and  63% of Best in Class at this point  <strong>DO NOT</strong> have a process in place, then we a a long ways away from the death of the social media consultant.  But wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Social media agencies will have to become more full service.  They&#8217;ll have to adopt larger corporate practices that go beyond setting up Facebook accounts and reaching out to bloggers.  They&#8217;ll need to fully understand how a social media marketing effort effects sales and then how customer services must respond, by using social media by this (hopeful) increase in sales.  So social media strategist may be less hip, but in the end, more useful.</p>
<p><strong>Dedicated cross-functional  teams are needed, meaning the nexus of controlling responsibility must be fluid.</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in one of the company considered by a Laggard, you&#8217;ve got company.  Aberdeen found that 86% of the Laggards don&#8217;t have dedicated personnel to work on social media initiatives.  A few people working a few hours here and there.  That&#8217;s not going to work. Social media will be changing corporate and organizations culture.</p>
<p>In most organizations, social media will be implemented across several department that interact with customers or clients, vendors, investors, the media, and employees. The level of implementation of Web 2.0 applications will vary according to the size of the organization, the industry it is in, the specific needs of each department within the organization and with the organization as a whole.  The implementation of social media on a strategic level, with its technological components and human interaction focus means that it can&#8217;t be done on a cookie cutter basis.   Teams must be created knowing that their success depends on a large scale collaborative effort.</p>
<p>Collaboration means cooperation.  Each division will have its own needs, its own level of adoption and adaption.  Some of that adoption will be reliant on adoption as a whole.</p>
<p>Here again, is where I part with Jason Falls&#8217; belief that <a href="http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/07/18/social-media-is-the-responsibility-of-public-relations/">social media come under the control of public relations</a>. Internal leaders must develop and they must see across the entire enterprise.  But then again, <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/social-media-who-will-control-it/">I already wrote about that</a>.</p>
<p>More importantly, at this stage of the game, management must cultivate internal resources in creating great teams to lead the way into the age of social media.</p>
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		<title>So then what is social media all about?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. 
I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.  Its applications go far beyond the neat [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><span>With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.<span>  </span>Its applications go far beyond the neat capsules that can be used to pick a particular department or function that should “own” it.<span>  </span>Social media is creating, empowering, and accompanying a paradigm shift in the way we use all media.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Are we fully there yet?<span>  </span>Of course not.<span>  </span>These are only the early stages, part of an evolutionary process that often comes step by step.<span>  </span><span> </span>But those steps are happening and happening and soon we’ll look back and be amazed how far we’ve traveled.<span>  </span>Then before we know it again, we’ll be stepping again and look back again and we’ll be amazed how much we’ve come from that first time we looked back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Yes, organizations are going to have to harness social media in ways that they can benefit from, to reach ROI.<span>  </span>This means trying to create some sort of structure for it without “siloizing” it.<span>  </span>Very difficult indeed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I’ve tried to lay out what I see social media as.<span>  </span>Not from a specific definitional standpoint, but from a several miles up point of view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Interested in your feedback…</span><span id="more-3155"></span></p>
<p><strong><o:p> </o:p><br />
Social media can be a practice within itself</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media&#8217;s possibilities extend beyond any traditional established practice (advertising, PR, sales, etc.) to the point that it can be a practice within itself. It can be spread across many departments and, thus, will often need practitioners who can implement coordinated efforts within an organization. The strategic methods used will often have enough attributes on a stand alone basis that it shouldn’t come underneath the heading of another specific department.<span>  </span>I&#8217;d put social media on the same par as advertising and PR. Full service social media firms have sprouted up such as Abraham Harrison to meet today’s needs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be a service</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Because social media is still in its nascent stages, clients and potential clients don&#8217;t always need comprehensive solution packages. They may need to know how to set up a blog and how to get traffic for it. Simple as that. Helping a company to start a blog is a service. So is creating a podcast. Many clients look to cherry pick services to satisfy their needs.<span>  </span>For some in social media, providing a non-coordinated menu of services is where it&#8217;s at. While social media agencies are an emerging industry, there’s not widespread demand quite yet, leaving many practitioners as service providers.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is strategy based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A company decides to let go of some (but not all) control of its marketing communications message. <span> </span>It views its customers and users on a somewhat equal level and not as blocks of ears to be shouted at and throats to have messages shoved down.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another company uses blogs to work with customers to improve products or come up with new ones.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">These are strategic changes that are being implemented.<span>  </span>Social media can change the nature of an organization because it changes the way an organization looks at itself and its relationships with its stakeholders.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore the strategy behind social media empowers change like nothing else can.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is tactically based</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The many tools of social media can be designed to manage a problem or a series of problems.<span>  </span>That’s not something that necessarily changes an organization.<span>  </span>It’s can implemented based strictly upon need.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This can cause a lot of frustration amongst social media strategists as we see a lot of potential opportunities for business not being fulfilled.<span>  </span>For others, applying tactics itself is an opportunity.<span>  </span>A foot in the door.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is technology based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media can involve a host of technologies that are often complicated to learn and understand. <span> </span>Setting up RSS feeds, monitoring online conversations, designing a blog for better SEM, putting together a widget.<span>  </span>It takes technical know how to implement much of these.<span>  </span>And that’s a reason why so many ad agencies and especially PR firms have been resistant in adopting social media.</p>
<p>But the technology is constantly changing, adapting, growing, as is the myriad of ways they can be used for clients.<span>  </span>It often takes someone who is comfortable with technology to succeed.</p>
<p><strong>Social Media is theory based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Authenticity. Transparency. Community. Engagement. Listening. Give up some of your control.<span>  </span>All constantly espoused by social media strategists.<span>  </span>These are theories that often go against the grain of traditional thought.<span>  </span>More on engagement and less on contrived messaged, push on people.<span>  </span>This blog post is theoretical. The theories formulate the methodologies that are behind the practices and the services.</p>
<p>These theories are why so many of us blog and offer our opinions and commentaries.<span>  </span>It’s why we read one another’s blogs, friend one another on Facebook and follow one another on Twitter.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is rule based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Aren’t authentic or transparent?<span>  </span>Watch out!<span>  </span>You’re gonna get nailed by someone in the blogosphere and it will cost you.<span>  </span>An instant case study as to how NOT do something.<span>  </span>The rules of the game were collectively created and enforced.<span>  </span></p>
<p>We’ve seen traditional agencies, large and small, ignore these rules and push ahead with fake blogs and such.<span>  </span>Ask the folks at <strong>Edelman</strong> and <strong>Zipatoni</strong>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is anti-bureaucratic<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>This may be one of the most important points of all.<span>  </span>Because its capabilities go beyond the silos of the current corporate communications, because the public arena can embrace it as their own, because it is always changing, and because it involves giving up a serious amount of self control, social media bucks the bureaucratic structure within organizations while it fundamentally changes the relationship between the organization and its stakeholders.</p>
<p>Online as a whole can shift between advertising and PR, causing disruption.<span>  </span>Social media adds to this by bringing in customers, users, and in some cases, communities into the mix.<span>  </span>It resists authority when the authority becomes too controlling.<span>  </span>And authority usually wants control.</p>
<p>Organizational bureaucracies will be changing soon enough because of social media.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Again, I see social media as being often a separate animal from traditional PR and advertising. For that matter, online advertising itself first created that difference.<span>  </span>Social media extends that difference.<span>  </span>It has its own methodologies that are totally separate from offline advertising. The divisions here may not be silo based; but often the pool of knowledge for success in the social media arena can&#8217;t be found in traditional types.</p>
<p>Simply sticking it under a particular division within an organization can cause stifled growth as it will be badly nurtured by people with a particular preconceived mindset.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>It’s vertical in another manner as well.<span>  </span>And this is more of a prediction than a statement of the current conditions, but we will soon see more and more specialized firms pop up that will be geared toward certain segments of the population. <span> </span>Just as there are agencies that are geared toward the Latino market and PR firms that are geared toward the GLBT communities, we’ll see social media agencies that have developed the expertise in reaching out to certain segments of the population.<span>  </span>All you have to do is listen to the many mommy bloggers that complain about their constantly getting hit by pitches from agencies that have no clue on what it’s like being a mom. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From what we all hear, social media will have implications in advertising, public relations, sales, customer service, human resources, investor relations etc. It will take an enterprise wide strategy to implement all of that. And it will take an actual social media strategist who understands all of those departments and who understands the technologies behind social media to devise a plan for that enterprise. <span> </span>He or she will have to be strong enough to lead the way and manage a lot of personalities, but gentle enough to let each department blossom.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Outside organizations, agencies such as Abraham Harrison and others will continue to emerge and become successful because they will stay on the forefront of all that is happening and how it should be applied.<span>  </span>Companies won’t have the internal expertise nor will they have the time nor the personnel to implement cross functional social media strategies.</p>
<p>So, just as we see ad agencies and PR firms today, we’ll continue to see social media agencies.<span>  </span>There will definitely be a need for them.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is push<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, social media still allows you to deliver marketing messages. <span> </span>It can be the conversation starter.<span>  </span>A blog can be push as can a podcast.<span>  </span>Maybe this is obvious but I’ve heard so much talk about sitting back an listening I wanted to add this.<span>  </span>Yes, social media can be overtly promotional.<span>  </span>It just has to be done right.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is pull</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, listening is important.<span>  </span>Then engaging is important.<span>  </span>Done right it creates trust.<span>  </span>Trust is pull.<span>  </span>Pull is good.<span>  </span>Social media is good.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social Media can be web presence centric and dispersed at the same time<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">No need to dis the hub of a website. Core elements of an organization’s social media efforts can emanate from but then be dispersed throughout blogs, Flickr, YouTube, etc.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created from within<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is obvious.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created and enhanced by others<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The greatest threat.<span>  </span>The biggest fear.<span>  </span>The challenging factor that causes many an enterprise to resist, to delay implementations. <span> </span>But those on the outside aren’t waiting.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So to me, social media is so multi-dimensional that it can’t be easily defined in one definition, explained in a singular context, bottled up in a particular department.<o:p></o:p></p>
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		<title>Nine reasons why agencies don&#8217;t get social media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I decided to put together a list of reasons why I think many marketing agencies &#8220;don&#8217;t  get&#8221; social media.  Some are legitimate reasons, most aren&#8217;t.  Feel free to add some of your own.
1- Elitism
The marketing industries &#8211; advertising, PR &#8211; are considered to be &#8216;cool&#8217; or chic.  These industries (including social [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F03%2Fnine-reasons-why-agencies-dont-get-social-media%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F03%2F03%2Fnine-reasons-why-agencies-dont-get-social-media%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I decided to put together a list of reasons why I think many marketing agencies &#8220;don&#8217;t  get&#8221; social media.  Some are legitimate reasons, most aren&#8217;t.  Feel free to add some of your own.</p>
<p><strong>1- Elitism</strong></p>
<p>The marketing industries &#8211; advertising, PR &#8211; are considered to be &#8216;cool&#8217; or chic.  These industries (including social media by the way) are filled with people who are self-consciously aware of this.  For years I&#8217;ve been on online forums filled with ad people trashing the industry, talking about the lack of creative talent the whole time positioning themselves as being above it all.</p>
<p>Enter social media and its marketing aspects and these self-important types have something else to look down upon.  If that attitude is prevelant  in an agency, then it means you&#8217;ve got an agency that&#8217;s closed off to innovation.</p>
<p><strong>2- Lack of Vision</strong></p>
<p>An agency gets an RFP for a major client.  They have meetings to brainstorm.  How to position the brand.  What creative they should use.  Where they should make placements.  Do we look to bring in a spokesperson?  What strategies, what tactics?</p>
<p>And the whole time, social media didn&#8217;t enter their mindset.</p>
<p>That may be because they&#8217;re too rushed to give their response to the RFP and, because they haven&#8217;t had the time to learn much about social media.  When it comes crunch time, it never occurs to them to do something with social media.</p>
<p><strong>3- Lack of Interest</strong></p>
<p>A couple of years ago I contacted a mid-size ad agency to see if they were going to incorporate any type of online marketing capabiliites.  They had no interest in it.  It was more than a lack of vision.  It was simply put, a fundamental lack of interest of what was happening around them</p>
<p><strong>4- Unable to figure out the revenue model</strong></p>
<p>This is an underrated and compelling reason.  I don&#8217;t believe as some doom sayers  do that advertising is on its way out.  But it is changing and some of these new business models involve little revenue.  If you&#8217;ve to a lot of overhead and a project comes in that could mean little revenue,  you&#8217;re going to be flummoxed and scared shitless of this.</p>
<p><strong>5- Terrified of Technology</strong></p>
<p>Often, people in agencies play the &#8220;he&#8217;s a tech guy&#8221; routine.  Cordoning off those who do online stuff as a whole as tech people.  And tech people usually aren&#8217;t marketing types.  So by placing that label on it, ad types both partially remove internet marketers from the decision making pro and  set up a situation where they don&#8217;t have to deal with technology &#8211; and the unknown.</p>
<p><strong>6- They undervalue what it takes to establish a capability</strong></p>
<p>Other times I&#8217;ve talked to agencies that it seems they want to hire someone &#8220;young&#8221; and not pay them much and &#8220;teach&#8221; them about online marketing, even though those that teach no little of what they speak.   Developing an online capability is viewed as a cost, not an opportunity and the idea then is to go as cheaply as possible.</p>
<p><strong>7- Methodologies are still being developed</strong></p>
<p>Yes, this is true.  The field is very new and, while there have been many successes, the constantly changing nature of social media &#8211; blogs, social networks, microblogs, online video, is often in a flux.  Methodologies have to play catch up.</p>
<p><strong>8- Social media is largely unproven</strong></p>
<p>No, this is not heresy.  It&#8217;s the truth, plain and simple.  It&#8217;s an emerging field and, while social media usage is growing phenomenally, it&#8217;s growing in many different directions.  Each time it grow, new lessons have to be applied to new strategies.</p>
<p><strong>9- Too much hype from social media strategists</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Engage or die&#8221;.  &#8220;The customer is in control of the brand&#8221;.  Overblown statements by &#8216;visionaries&#8217; that usually aren&#8217;t true and turn off traditional marketers.  Statements like that seem to be directed at other social media strategists where it becomes part of the echo chamber.  Not everyone had to &#8216;engage&#8217; and not everyone will die if they fail to do so.</p>
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		<title>What a surprise!  Huckabee surprises the pundits!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disclosure:  I&#8217;m a somewhat lapsed cafeteria style Catholic who forgot that yesterday was Ash Wednesday.  I&#8217;m writing this post based on cultural trends I see in our society, the often monolithic viewpoint of marketers and the media, and the results of good ol&#8217; fashioned grassroots appeal.  My own religious views have nothing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F02%2F07%2Fwhat-a-surprise-huckabee-surprises-the-pundits%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F02%2F07%2Fwhat-a-surprise-huckabee-surprises-the-pundits%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Disclosure:  I&#8217;m a somewhat lapsed cafeteria style Catholic who forgot that yesterday was Ash Wednesday.  I&#8217;m writing this post based on cultural trends I see in our society, the often monolithic viewpoint of marketers and the media, and the results of good ol&#8217; fashioned grassroots appeal.  My own religious views have nothing to do with this since I generally disagree with the religious views of a couple of groups I&#8217;m writing about.</p>
<p>When I kept on hearing from professional political pundits that the GOP race for president was now down to two people, John McCain and Mitt Romney, I knew that it was happening again.  They were conveniently overlooking the strengths of a third candidate that they ignorantly thought was washed up.  <a href="http://www.mikehuckabee.com/">Mike Huckabee</a>.  Mike Huckabee <a href="http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272618707.shtml">went on to win five states</a> on Tuesday.  Most pundits were predicting that he&#8217;d capture just one: his home state of Arkansas.  Some of these same pundits were saying that Huckabee winning these states was on the Super Tuesday&#8217;s major stories.</p>
<p>The actual story was that these same pundits didn&#8217;t see it coming.</p>
<p>In AdAge today, Ken Wheaton <a href="http://adage.com/campaigntrail/article?article_id=124896">points out</a> how the supposed experts misjudged this, just as they had misjudged the appeal of <strong><em>The Passion of the Christ </em></strong>a few years ago.  So yes, once again we had a yet another example this past Tuesday night of how supposed pundits and experts both misunderstood and underestimated the power and influence of evangelical Christians and, to a lesser extent, conservative Catholics.  In other words, deeply conservative people of some sort of Christian faith.</p>
<p>Why is this important?  Because I largely see many in the advertising, media, and entertainment industries as having the same socio-cultural mindset.  And when it comes to marketing, <a href="http://erniemosteller.typepad.com/tangeloideas/2008/02/what-do-you-thi.html">it&#8217;s a major problem</a>.  Too <a href="http://tangerinetoad.blogspot.com/search/label/Not%20Everyone%20Is%20An%20Upscale%20Urban%2030something%20White%20Male%20Hipster">many seem to feel that  everyone else </a> (at least those that are intelligent and/or hip) <a href="http://tangerinetoad.blogspot.com/search/label/Not%20Everyone%20Is%20An%20Upscale%20Urban%2030something%20White%20Male%20Hipster">think just like them</a>.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;ve written about this before <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2007/12/17/a-political-lesson-on-social-networking-in-todays-iowa/">here </a>and <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2007/12/20/a-coming-problem-of-diversity/">here</a>.</p>
<p>It concerns me when I hear those in social media marketing say &#8220;you need to engage  the community&#8221;  when I fear that they come to the table with the same assumptions and biases.  That&#8217;s because social media is that more personal.  It&#8217;s that more tangible.</p>
<p>I see the social media space as being populated by mostly twenty and thirty somethings.  At times, I&#8217;ve seen the same stereotyping of certain demographic groups as I have seen from those that are older or are of the same age but are in traditional advertising.  It&#8217;s my hope that all of us seek to understand not just the bare bones individual that we look to influence, but the cultural factors that make them tick.</p>
<p>Even if we can&#8217;t relate to it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Katie Wolph</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Naked Conversations gives a transparent look into why your business may have a company webpage but have yet to form real relationships with individuals in the blogosphere—an increasingly growing online community. Chapters within the text reveal valid reasons why small and large companies need to start being honest and reaching out to their customers.
Robert Scoble [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F05%2Fnaked-conversations-book-review-2%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F05%2Fnaked-conversations-book-review-2%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Conversations-Changing-Businesses-Customers/dp/047174719X" title="Naked Conversations">Naked Conversations</a> gives a transparent look into why your business may have a company webpage but have yet to form real relationships with individuals in the blogosphere—an increasingly growing online community. Chapters within the text reveal valid reasons why small and large companies need to start being honest and reaching out to their customers.</p>
<p>Robert Scoble and Shel Israel illustrate a new revolution in their text by pointing out that blogging has already begun to change the social landscape of media communication. We are living in age where every second of every day is a missed opportunity if you do not promote your business through an integration of media outlets.</p>
<p>The authors’ state that company blogs are a tool and the return on investment is that new and returning customers will see a sincere human being who cares about their business and reputation. They also reaffirm that if someone has not being open, honest, or cool about a company product, the blogosphere or global network of fact checkers has the right to say something about it.</p>
<p>The communication revolution moves from an impersonal, controlled one-way model of communication into a decentralized interactive, constantly regenerating conversation. Word-of-mouth is a phrase reverberated throughout the text and can be visualized within the recounts of successful blogs like GM Fast lane, English Cuts-Savile Row suits, and Treonauts by Andrew Carton. Each has learned that customer evangelists have the ability to jump start excitement and dole out advice if your product is not quite remarkable just yet.</p>
<p>Why are so many companies afraid of conversational marketing? The authors explain that many individuals care so much their product they are afraid to gamble on all the hard work that has already been put into the business.</p>
<p>Time consumption, legal concerns, negative comments, clash with PR firm, giving away competitive information, and getting fired are all valid apprehensions but can be deterred by remembering key advice that not only the authors but regulars readers of Naked Conversation Blog agreed that the tips given in Chapter 11 Doing It Right would ease new and inexperienced individuals into the blogosphere. A blogging plumber you say?</p>
<p>The Corporate Weblog Manifesto in Chapter 12 has over 30 great comments about the principles of corporate blogging from experienced bloggers as well.</p>
<p>Now here is the honest part of this review if you are still reading. After finishing the text, my subjective view is that your company should create a blog about your brand if it has not been done already because it gives you DIRECT ACCESS to potential and returning customers. Keep your corporate leadership priorities straight and only blog when you can and give up the duties to employees or emerging online pr companies that want to see the highest level of excellence from your product(s).</p>
<p>Remember you are not late to the game, it has just started, so jump in and get your feet wet. Have OPENNESS &amp; HONESTY &amp; (be) COOL&#8211; showcase exactly why your brand is remarkable because blogging allows the opportunity to the change the entire perception with the click of the mouse and tap of the keyboard. Customer evangelist will come to your assistance if someone calls your product unremarkable.</p>
<p>I think readers will enjoy this book for an over view of why blogs are necessary for business reputation and encourage the customer evangelist in all of us. (‘Because we are living in a material world’… ok I’m back from 1985 or just watched a scene from Moulin Rouge).</p>
<p>Scoble and Israel stated in the final paragraph of the book that blogging has ended an era of one way communication and companies are not just talking to consumers anymore. Two-way conversation allows customers an all exclusive, backstage VIP pass to give thoughts and feedback on products and brands in the market right now. Businesses no longer have to wonder why a product is not interesting consumers when focus groups state they have explored all avenues. CEO John Doe can go online and pose the question on a blog or in message forums and get answers from the individuals with money to spend.</p>
<p>Blogs must be seen as tools and corporations must see that markets are available for conversation. The Conversation Era is here but the conversations have only just begun.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The culture of participatory social media is having some surprisingly significant effects on both the way satisfied customers play a role in contributing to the marketing message development of products and services.  And it is also playing an increasingly important role in defining the key touchpoints that customers use in the deciding  factors [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F12%2F02%2Fsocial-media-is-driving-online-reviews-will-drive-community%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F12%2F02%2Fsocial-media-is-driving-online-reviews-will-drive-community%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>The culture of participatory social media is having some surprisingly significant effects on both the way satisfied customers play a role in contributing to the marketing message development of products and services.  And it is also playing an increasingly important role in defining the key touchpoints that customers use in the deciding  factors  one what to purchase.  What makes this all the more noteworthy is that much of this is rooted in offline purchases.  I&#8217;m putting this together from two recent studies&#8230;</p>
<p><span id="more-2866"></span> As we all know, a satisfied customer can often be your most effective marketing vehicle.    This has become all the more apparent as <a href="http://www.bazaarblog.com/2007/11/28/why-customers-write-reviews/#comments">Bazaarevoice</a> found in a survey they completed for<a href="http://www.kellerfay.com"> Keller Fay</a>, the word of mouth marketing agency based out of Atlanta.  They found that 79% of reviewers write reviews to reward a company for the quality of the product or service they bought, with 87% of the reviews being positive in tone.  Positive experiences mean greater customer involvement.</p>
<p>This means that satisfied customers see the idea of writing online reviews as an important part of their product/service experience.  That&#8217;s backed up by the fact that in the same survey, 90% of the respondents write the reviews to help others make better buying decisions.  Social media allows them to &#8217;share the love&#8217; so to speak.  The survey also points out that 70% see contributing to online reviews as a means to help a company improve what they offer.  If this is the case, then we&#8217;ve got the initial stages of what many are calling a &#8216;community&#8217;.</p>
<p>The significance of that point shouldn&#8217;t be underestimated.  Social media marketers are constantly talking about community.  Sometimes I think they overdo it.  That&#8217;s because I think they believe exists in the first place.  It doesn&#8217;t.  But customer reviews are one way in which they begin.</p>
<p>That becomes more important when you realize that <a href="http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=1928">comScore</a> and the <a href="http://www.kelseygroup.om">Kelsey Group</a> found that reviews written by fellow consumers had a greater impact on the buying decisions of potential buyers than that of professional reviewers.  And this no small point:  97% of review readers fine the reviews they read to be accurate.  So, the quality of the reviews by fellow users is not compromised by a lack of &#8216;expertise&#8217; in writing reviews.  With more than three-quarters of review readers saying that their reading of someone else&#8217;s opinion on a product or service effected their decision to make a purchase, online review are now completely mainstream  They are part of customer relations, message development, and  community formulation.  In short, an ecommerce strategy must include happy customers.</p>
<p>And just how can this affect the touchpoints as to the reasoning behind a purchase.  comScore helps us out again by pointing out that people were willing to pay 20% ore for an Excellent, or 5-star rating, than they were a Very Good or Good 4-star rating.  The survey doesn&#8217;t stipulate the percentage of people that feel this way however.  But it does show that for (likely) price is not necessarily a huge factor when it comes to top quality.  I say that because a 4-star rating is still very positive.</p>
<p>It should also be pointed out that offline purchases are really pushing this.  Bazarrevoice found that of their respondents, 65% of them had, after purchasing offline, had gone back online to write a review.  So it is not necessarily technology insiders.  It&#8217;s broader than that.</p>
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		<title>Facebook Beacon isn&#8217;t in the user&#8217;s interest (that means you)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep on trying to legitimize the reasons that Facebook is using to justify their new marketing program, &#8220;Facebook Beacon&#8221;.  But it&#8217;s just not happening. It keeps on coming back to user relationships, user privacy, and user benefit.  You know, the USER.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F24%2Ffacebook-beacon-inst-in-the-users-interest-that-means-you%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F24%2Ffacebook-beacon-inst-in-the-users-interest-that-means-you%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I keep on trying to legitimize the reasons that Facebook is using to justify their new marketing program, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">&#8220;Facebook Beacon&#8221;</a>.  But it&#8217;s just not happening. It keeps on coming back to user relationships, user privacy, and user benefit.  You know, the USER.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not sure what Beacon is, it&#8217;s basically this.  Facebook is setting up agreements with online retailers that aren&#8217;t part of Facebook to have the retailer directly send information of what people buy on the retailer site to their &#8220;friends&#8221; on Facebook.  The user is first supposed to see a notice on the retail site for which they need to give the thumbs down if they object. So the system is supposed to be opt out.  But there&#8217;s been some circumstances where the information is just automatically sent without approval or even notification of the buyer. That means the next time you buy a book from Amazon or an item from Overstock.com, the retailer could end up letting your friends know what you bought unless you explicitly stop it.</p>
<p><span id="more-2715"></span>Facebook is positioning this as the way of advertising because it essentially involves word of mouth as a strengthening agent to traditional display. I see it as an overreaching policy designed to push the envelope that much further to see how they can monetize user experience.</p>
<p>This whole thing rubs me the wrong way.  It is part of the continual losing of control of our privacy, done with a smile, assuring us of the neat new opportunities it will bring.  Not all agree with me here. I&#8217;m reading plenty of comments of people saying that they don&#8217;t mind the idea of letting their friends know what they buy. But when I hear that, I say, fine. Then keep it opt in. Not opt out. I&#8217;m thinking those that have no objections to this sort of thing are thinking strictly of their own personal preferences in buying and the relationships that they have with their Facebook friends. And they might be of the mindset that what they do off Facebook is free game. Since I read marketing blogs, I&#8217;m also reading the comments of marketing types&#8230;not necessarily someone outside of the industry. My hunch is that most that feel that Beacon is no big deal are relatively young. As people age, they often get more private. And the demographics of Facebook is getting older as it grows.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/11/21/facebook-beacon-woes-are-overstated/?disqus_reply=17774#comment-17774">Matthew Ingram</a> feels as if the opposition to this is being overblown. I can&#8217;t agree. Take the case of Charlene Li. Charlene is none other than an internet analyst with Forrester.  Not exactly a newbie.  <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html">She recently recounted an experience </a>she had when she bought a coffee table from Overstock.com.  She hopped online, went to the site, and ordered the table, using her personal email as opposed to her one from Forrester.  It should be pointed out that she has two profiles on Facebook.  One for professional reasons that&#8217;s tied to her Forrester email and one a personal profile that&#8217;s tied into her personal email.  The next time she logged into Facebook, she did so onto her Facebook profile.  Maybe because it was the first she logged onto, she received this: <img src="http://blogs.forrester.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/20/overstockbeacon.jpg" height="118" width="440" /></p>
<p>She points out that Overstock.com never let her opt out of this.  Or that she didn&#8217;t see anything that would allow her to opt out.  Either way, Overstock sent it without her permission.  The second part is that they sent it to her professional profile, not her personal one.  Even thought she had used her personal email.  That&#8217;s because Beacon is cookie/browser based.</p>
<p>This brings us to my first objection of <strong>user relationships</strong>.  While I&#8217;m buying a particular item on a particular online retail site, I do so because of my desire for that product and for my trust of or relationship with that store.  I&#8217;m not thinking of my friends and colleagues on Facebook when I press the buy button.  But now Facebook and the retailer have decided that Facebook is  now going to play a role.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m on Facebook, I know I&#8217;m within a somewhat closed off setting&#8230;a social network. My relationship is with Facebook and with what is within Facebook. That&#8217;s fine. That&#8217;s cool. But when I head to, say, Amazon, my relationship there is with Amazon. Not Facebook. But apparently, Facebook and Amazon have decided together that I now have a relationship with Facebook when I buy that book that I want.When I buy a product from a local retailer (an actual store, you know, a physical one), I&#8217;m a customer of that retailer and not the local newspaper. I don&#8217;t expect the store to then send a press release to the local newspaper about what I just bought and then get a phone call from a reporter asking me to approve of them putting the news in the paper. Screw that.</p>
<p>Beacon potentially violates the relationships that we form online.  Ones that we in social media marketer so often say are built on trust and respect.   Oddly, this happens with the retailer&#8217;s involvement. Facebook could easily come off as intruding into that relationship. This shouldn&#8217;t be underestimated. In a time that we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;listening&#8221; we&#8217;re talking respect.</p>
<p>Justin Smith of <a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/11/21/beacon-concerns-like-news-feed-concerns-of-a-year-ago-will-fade/#comments">Inside Facebook</a> sees this as a rehash of an earlier bump in the road that Facebook had to deal with.   That particular bump involved the debut of Facebook&#8217;s news feed, which informs our friends what we do on <em>within </em>Facebook.  Justin also points out that opposition to that was 10 times larger in sheer numbers.</p>
<p>Justin, if you read this, I&#8217;d answer you on those two points the following way.  First, I&#8217;d say that that initial opposition, while maybe justified was probably mollified by the understanding many would have that they&#8217;re receiving many benefits within the site and that the news feed application is a legitimate price to pay&#8230;because the feed is about what&#8217;s happenig within the site and not outside.  And your point on numbers it correct and may be legit, but I&#8217;d say part of the reason could be that most people probably found out about within a couple of weeks of in being installed.  All they had to do was log onto Facebook and they&#8217;d see a newsfeed.  The quick, collective discovery of this probably fueled the flame.</p>
<p>But what we have here will be much more drawn out.  People will be finding out over time.  Perhaps thousands each day.  Enough to build steam but not enough to have every one know about it over a couple of weeks.  But then again, the holiday season is upon us&#8230;</p>
<p>This brings me my second point, which is probably the underlying one of all.  <strong>User privacy</strong>.  It&#8217;s not anyone&#8217;s business as to whether or not Charlene bought a coffee table, regardless of how we know her.  That&#8217;s, of course, unless Charlene want us to know. This new system shouldn&#8217;t force her to take an extra step to make sure that her buying habits are private.  She didn&#8217;t invite Facebook to be that part of her personal or professional life.</p>
<p><strike>Think about it.  Say a closeted gay man who lives in a relatively conservative area goes to Amazon and buys a couple of books on coming out of the closet.  Amazon doesn&#8217;t notify him that they&#8217;re sending this info to his Facebook friends because of the same glitch that happened to Charlene.  Now, KABOOM!, he&#8217;s out of the closet.  Everyone know.  Probably before he has any clue as to what happens.  Now his life sucks.  Screw that.</strike></p>
<p><strike>Or you may have a woman who recently found she has a sexually transmitted disease.  She&#8217;s horrified, terrified.  Doesn&#8217;t want anyone to know.  She buys a book about it on Amazon.  She&#8217;s so scared, she doesn&#8217;t see the notice on Amazon that this info is being sent to Facebook.  After all, the notice was never there before.  Now her &#8216;friends&#8217; know&#8230;from her actual friends to her business colleagues.  Screw that.</strike></p>
<p><em>Follow up:  I had read on TechCrunch that Amazon is part of Beacon.  Alas, it isn&#8217;t.  Wanted to strike the above two paragraphs as a result.  My bad.</em></p>
<p>Maybe you got a buy who happily just ordered an engagement ring for his wonderful girlfriend.  Kinda nervous when he does.  Doesn&#8217;t notice that small notice on the retail site.  Now he&#8217;s planning a big surprise for her. This is a once in a lifetime event.  Being a romantic at heart, he&#8217;s gonna make it special.   He&#8217;s going to take her to the best restaurnat in town.  And while he&#8217;s there, he&#8217;s going to take her out on the balcony overlooking the sun setting over the river and OOPS!  The whole world now knows, including his sweetheart.  Great way for a girl to find out he&#8217;s popping the question. Screw that.</p>
<p>The possibilities are endless.  And they&#8217;re waiting to happen.</p>
<p>But Facebook and the retailer are now benefiting from this.  They&#8217;re making money from this new ad system.  But what about us?  What is the <strong>user benefit</strong>?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any.  I really don&#8217;t.  We will become marketing agents for retailers and products without sharing a piece of the pie.  We won&#8217;t be getting a commission.  We won&#8217;t be getting discounts from the retailer.  We won&#8217;t be having a more robust experience on Facebook because of this.  No, we&#8217;re being monetized at the loss of our privacy and convenience.  Our newfeeds will be filled up with nonsensical news that people bought coffee tables or bird cages or books on how to leave an abusive husband.  No user benefit in that.</p>
<p>This brings me to a fourth objection.  What happens to the data?  What happens to the info that Facebook receives?  Retailers house the info from the data to strengthen the relationships they have with their customers.  Now Facebook has it.  They are looking to monetize its users.  Will the data be shared with fourth parties?  Remember, Facebook is the third party here.  Will the gay guy suddenly start getting ads that appeal to the gay community?  Will this happen when he&#8217;s at work?  Will someone else get the same ads if he quickly checks his profile on a shared computer and someone else logs on to Facebook ten minutes later?</p>
<p>In other words, will the results of all of this info end up being public?  Screw that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The November 8th edition of The Economist has an article that asks us “Will Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites transform advertising?”
In truth, the article is poorly written.  It asks the wrong question, it’s lazily researched, and it provides little actual theory or empirical evidence to justify the premise they are trying to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F11%2Fsocial-networking-sites-and-their-role-in-new-marketing%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F11%2Fsocial-networking-sites-and-their-role-in-new-marketing%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p class="MsoNormal">The November 8<sup>th</sup> edition of The Economist has an article that asks us<a href="http://economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10102992"> “Will Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites transform advertising?”</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In truth, the article is poorly written.<span>  </span>It asks the wrong question, it’s lazily researched, and it provides little actual theory or empirical evidence to justify the premise they are trying to suppose.<span>  </span>Perhaps the reason for this is that The Economist is a general news publication – one that I respect – and that the article was intended for a mainstream readership that’s likely mostly interested in reading about general trends and not deeper analysis.<span>  </span>But nevertheless…</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question as to whether Facebook, MySpace and other social networking sites will transform advertising is off.<span>  </span>It I was asked this, I’d have to say no.<span>  </span>Not really.<span>  </span>(First of all, it’s more marketing than the subset of advertising.)<span>  </span>To be sure, they’ll play a major role.<span>  </span>But it isn’t the setting so much as it is the relationships that individuals will have with these very sites, with brands, and with one another.<span>  </span>Facebook and MySpace may be great places to launch a brand or product page in an attempt to develop what many call a ‘community’.<span>  </span>But then again, it may not.<span>  </span>Perhaps a product oriented website equipped with social media tools will do.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The article rightfully calls this the fourth in a line of three proven online marketing categories.<span>  </span>The first was banner and ad unit advertising.<span>  </span>The second was online classifieds, and the third was search.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, the advantage social networks have is that they’ve got millions of registered users, all of whom can tap into the social tools that the sites make available.<span>  </span><span> </span>And those tools include notification systems and the viral capabilities that are so essential to the expansion of a marketing message.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But the essence of all of this will be the interaction of the brand with individuals and the individuals with others of what the brand is hoping that it is creating…a burgeoning community.<span>  </span>And that’s where it gets tough.<span>  </span>That’s because many, if not most brands, don’t lend themselves to be naturally community building entities on social media sites.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s going to take real talent for brand managers, ad agencies, and social media strategist to create successful online marketing campaigns using the strategies we all talk and blog about.<span>  </span>Too often I read the typical “you must engage your community’ talk, talk that presupposes that a community already exists.<span>  </span>And no – a customer base, by itself, is not a community.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Take for instance a group on Facebook that I joined this morning as a result of reading the article.<span>  </span>SpriteSips.<span>  </span>Truth be told, I’m a Sprite lover.<span>  </span>Always have been.<span>  </span>But I joined not because of a lifelong affinity for the soft drink, but because I wanted to see how this online experiment will go.<span>  </span>Seems I’m not alone…about half of the hundred or so ‘friends’ of SpriteSips were either from the Coca-Cola company, or from the interactive industry, or worked for Facebook.<span>  </span>To be fair, SpriteSips has been up for only a little over a week (thus showing some laziness in research for the article – a more in-depth analysis of the MySpace effort for the movie “300”) and it’s too soon to make any judgments as to the effectiveness of the campaign.<span>  </span>But Sprite really isn’t a lifestyle brand like Gatorade or Red Bull or Snapple.<span>  </span>It’s going to be a challenge to get people to be continually pumped to come back to and “engage” with a soft drink that tastes good, but one that’s common enough that you can get at McDonalds, Burger King, and Subway.<span>  </span>My guess is that it will be moderately successful and cost effective, but it isn’t something that will show how social media shines.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tangerine Toad has a great series on this.<span>  </span>He calls it <a href="http://tangerinetoad.blogspot.com/search/label/Your%20Brand%20Is%20Not%20My%20Friend">“Your Brand is Not My Friend”</a>, with the hypothesis being that I may like or even love your product, but don’t assume my affinity with it goes beyond simply using it for purpose that it’s made for.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To me, the article likely will make some social media marketing types all the more enthusiastic while making skeptics all the more skeptic.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I say all of this out of respect for all of us in the social media marketing field.<span>  </span>As I mentioned, it’s going to take real talent to harness this new type of market and make it work.<span>  </span>It’s going to take keen minds that know what makes different types of individuals out there want to be part of and then how to properly engage with them.<span>  </span>It’s going to be a challenge – one that I love and I’m sure you do too.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s an amazing statistic:  a full 57% of marketing executives recently responded with the following answer to the question if their firm has a crisis response communication plan:  NO.  What makes it more amazing is that in the same survey, 53% said that their business had experienced a crisis in the past&#8230;one that resulted in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F10%2F14%2Fdo-you-have-a-crisis-management-plan%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F10%2F14%2Fdo-you-have-a-crisis-management-plan%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Here&#8217;s an amazing statistic:  a full 57% of marketing executives recently responded with the following answer to the question if their firm has a crisis response communication plan:  <strong>NO</strong>.  What makes it more amazing is that in the same survey, 53% said that their business had experienced a crisis in the past&#8230;one that resulted in a loss in sales, a reduction in profits, or negative press.  A majority of that 53% say that the recovery period took a year a more.  Only one-half have trained spokespeople.  And it shouldn&#8217;t go unnoticed that there&#8217;s an overlap of 4% here of companies that have suffered a crisis in the recent past but have yet to install a plan to address future crises.</p>
<p><span id="more-2173"></span>The survey, put together by <a href="http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071008/FREE/71008010/1109/ISSUENEWS">B2B Magazine </a>and <a href="http://www.btobonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071008/FREE/71008010/1109/ISSUENEWS">Eric Mower and Associates</a>, was taken of 251 marketing executives this September.  The results are telling.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re telling because, well, I&#8217;ll let Peter Kapcio of Eric Mower say it&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If companies choose not to be prepared for a crisis, they and shareholders will pay the price, because crises have a way of twisting and turning till they do serious bottom-line damage&#8230; It&#8217;s downright professionally irresponsible when b-to-b marcomm people allow their companies to operate unprepared. What if your brand new corporate headquarters building burned down, and it was discovered later that your facilities manager had `neglected&#8217; to buy fire insurance? It&#8217;s the same thing when b-to-b companies invest millions in building their brand or company reputation, and then do nothing while it&#8217;s all at risk from the next potential crisis.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A crisis doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean your product just exploded and killed a mother of five.  It could mean that a series of a company&#8217;s key suppliers have disasters of their own.  A fire at a factory, a crippling strike, trouble brews with the government of the country where the third supplier exists.  Suddenly, your company won&#8217;t be able to release the next version of its signature product.  That&#8217;s a crisis.  It affects your bottom line, it effects your relationship with your customers, your vendors, your employees and your stockholders.  Wall Street notices and isn&#8217;t impressed.  That&#8217;s a crisis.  That&#8217;s why a company needs a seasoned team who understands the types of scenarios that can develop.</p>
<p>This is becoming all the more increasingly true as we move deeper and deeper into the digital age.  Sure, sometimes the effect of online chatter can be overrated.  But often it is not.  It lasts and lasts and lasts.  And it can reach like minded people and suddenly you&#8217;ve got a small movement against you.</p>
<p>But put aside the crisis that may start online and think about the company whose suppliers bug out.  It&#8217;s not just Wall Street murmuring, its customers talking to one another online.  And they&#8217;re pissed.  Because the last edition was late in delivery by a couple of months.  And these customers have blogs that reach 5000.  Most of whom are your customers as well.  They read product reviews, they participate in forums, they have their own blogs.  Your bad news spreads fast.  You&#8217;ve got a crisis. </p>
<p>So develop a plan.  And start off by reading <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2007/10/08/how-to-protect-your-online-reputation-via-the-new-york-times/">this</a>.</p>
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