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		<title>USA Network&#8217;s VP of Digital Strategy and Development,  Jesse Redniss Talks Abouts the Consumers, Digital Environment and Engagement!</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2010/01/10/usa-networks-vp-of-digital-strategy-and-development-jesse-redniss-talks-abouts-the-consumers-digital-environment-and-engagement/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[USA Networks is about to launch next season premieres for 3 different series in January: Burn Notice, Psych and White Collar (OMG.. set those DVR&#8217;s now!). What and how will this change the online environment and the digital environment of the sites that comprise USA Networks which include Character Arcade and The Clik Blog ratchets [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2010%2F01%2F10%2Fusa-networks-vp-of-digital-strategy-and-development-jesse-redniss-talks-abouts-the-consumers-digital-environment-and-engagement%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2010%2F01%2F10%2Fusa-networks-vp-of-digital-strategy-and-development-jesse-redniss-talks-abouts-the-consumers-digital-environment-and-engagement%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/">USA Networks </a></strong>is about to launch next season premieres for 3 different series in January: <strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/index.html">Burn Notice</a>, <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/index.html">Psych </a></strong>and <strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecollar/index.html">White Collar</a></strong> (<a class="zem_slink" title="Object Management Group" rel="homepage" href="http://www.omg.org/">OMG</a>.. set those <a class="zem_slink" title="Digital video recorder" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_video_recorder">DVR</a>&#8217;s now!). What and how will this change the online environment and the digital environment of the sites that comprise USA Networks which include <strong><a href="http://www.characterarcade.com/">Character Arcade</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://theclik.characterarcade.com/">The Clik Blog</a></strong> ratchets up the visibility of the network and their shows.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.la-story.com/upload/2010/01/usa_networks_vp_of_digital_strategy_and_developmen/usa.jpg" alt="usa.jpg" width="266" height="120" /></p>
<p>The <strong><a class="zem_slink" title="USA Network" rel="homepage" href="http://www.usanetwork.com/">USA Network</a> site</strong> features full-length episodes of each show and also provides lots of background information on characters, actors and more. Also they have create <a class="zem_slink" title="Oh My Goddess!" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oh_My_Goddess%21">aa</a> great collection of show-oriented games and mind-bender sites tnat will immerse you more into the world of the various shows.</p>
<p>Want to explore more games ? Check out <strong><a href="http://www.characterarcade.com/">Character Arcade</a></strong> . This <strong><a href="http://theclik.characterarcade.com/game-types/other/holiday-hiatus-blues.php">Holiday Hiatus Blues</a></strong> post is filled with suggestions of various games including mobile applicatiions.</p>
<p>Luckily to explain what the digital division has done for 2009 and where it&#8217;s going in 2010, is <strong>Vice President, <a class="zem_slink" title="Digital strategy" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_strategy">Digital Strategy</a> &amp; Development, <a class="zem_slink" title="NBC Universal" rel="homepage" href="http://www.nbcuni.com/">NBC Universal</a>, USA Network Jesse Redniss. </strong>spent some time talking to us about this very subject and a lot more &#8212; almost 30 minutes of chat time.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.la-story.com/upload/2010/01/usa_networks_vp_of_digital_strategy_and_developmen/jesse-redniss.jpg" alt="jesse-redniss.jpg" width="326" height="396" /></p>
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<p>Redniss understands the power of the web and how it interfaces with the USA network and how to leverage it to best make use of the consumer interface. He provided a great deal of insight regarding the direction of USA&#8217;s network dramas as well as the online experience of forums, games and other initiatives like <strong><a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/">Characters Unite</a></strong>-which is a partnership with charitable organizations along with <strong><a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/town-hall">Tom Brokaw&#8217;s town hall meeting</a> </strong>and others to work on fostering a change and congruence on a variety of issues in the world today. The <strong>Characters Unite</strong> initiative started in 2009 and will be a huge focal point in 2010. Surf this site and take the <a href="http://www.charactersunite.com/#/the_pledge">Pledge</a>!</p>
<p>Other things to note about USA Networks is <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/greenusa/">GreenUSA</a>. Check out the <a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/greenusa/ecoist/index.html">Eco-ist Corner </a>for tips, tricks and the entire site for more ways to go green and help the environment.</p>
<p>Other places mentioned within the podcast to check out include<br />
<a href="http://onstar.usanetwork.com/"><strong>Burn Notice Game with Fiona</strong></a><br />
<strong><a href="http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/video/spytips/index.html">Ask a Spy</a></strong></p>
<p>Thank you to Jesse Redniss for his time and tons of information. Also thank you to USA Network and Electric Artists for making this podcast happen!</p>
<p>Stevie Wilson, LA-Story.com<br />
<strong>Stevie Wilson</strong> writes the <a href="http://www.LA-Story.com">www.LA-Story.com</a> blog and is Chief Marketing Officer &amp; Partner, KBP Inc, a privately held corporation dealing in multi-media, real estate developments, internet start-ups and new media marketing strategy.</p>
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		<title>Funny Sexy Shoes And News</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Rhoades</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s really nothing that sells quite like humor.  Funny moments tend to live on in the minds of the people who experience them, and a funny advertisement can live on just as well.  When your advertisement sticks, your brand sticks with it.
Reebok has it down when it comes to making sexy, funny, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2009%2F12%2F02%2Ffunny-sexy-shoes-and-news%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2009%2F12%2F02%2Ffunny-sexy-shoes-and-news%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>There&#8217;s really nothing that sells quite like humor.  Funny moments tend to live on in the minds of the people who experience them, and a funny advertisement can live on just as well.  When your advertisement sticks, your brand sticks with it.</p>
<p>Reebok has it down when it comes to making sexy, funny, and attention grabbing ads, while keeping it simple:</p>
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<p>While it won&#8217;t make me go out and buy a print newspaper, because it&#8217;s the age of digital media, it&#8217;s still a really great bit of dry humor.  Kudos to you Sun newspaper.  Maybe I&#8217;ll pick up a digital subscription someday:</p>
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<p>Don&#8217;t be afraid to joke around with the people you&#8217;re reaching out to, because it&#8217;ll pay off more times than not.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am the newest blogger over at the AdAge Global Idea Network, a gig that only started a couple weeks ago.  I love it.  My editor is Matt Creamer. Matt and I rushed this post last night. I received the email three hours ago, IMed Matt, and we got it out now.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F12%2F05%2Fpepsi-apologized-to-me-for-its-suicide-ads%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F12%2F05%2Fpepsi-apologized-to-me-for-its-suicide-ads%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I am the newest blogger over at the <a href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork">AdAge Global Idea Network</a>, a gig that only started a couple weeks ago.  I love it.  My editor is Matt Creamer. Matt and I rushed this post last night. I received the email three hours ago, IMed Matt, and we got it out now.  I love blogging for this.  I hope you enjoy this new post, <a href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">Pepsi Apologized to Me For Its Suicide Ads</a>:</p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=133043">Pepsi Apologized to Me For Its Suicide Ads<br /> </a></strong><em>A close-up look at how the marketer is handling fallout from its controversial German ads</em></p>
<p>This week, PepsiCo got into hot water with more than a few folks after  some suicide-themed ads many found offensive were brought to light.  Here&#8217;s how they&#8217;re using social media to apologize to  consumers—including me. </p>
<p> I received an email from B. Bonin Bough of PepsiCo, <a href="http://twitter.com/boughb" target="_blank">@boughb on Twitter</a>, responding to <a href="http://twitter.com/chrisabraham/status/1035115648" target="_blank">my tweet</a> about the recent post that Matt Creamer wrote a couple days ago, <a href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=132952" target="_blank">&#8220;Pepsi Opens a Vein of Controversy With New Suicide-Themed Ads&#8221;</a>,  about some ads that were run here in Germany in a lifestyle mag—ads  Pepsi says it won&#8217;t run again after they received heavy criticism all  over the web. </p>
<p> I&#8217;ll excerpt the first part of the email from Mr. Bough, who holds the  title of director-social and emerging media and is based at Pepsi&#8217;s  Purchase, N.Y. campus: </p>
<blockquote><p> I saw your tweet and I just wanted to make sure I responded  personally. We agree this creative is totally inappropriate; we  apologize and please know it won&#8217;t run again. Also, thanks for the  feedback and the Digg, it is important to discuss these types of  issues. </p>
<p> My best friend committed suicide and this is a topic very close to my heart. So again I offer my deepest apologies. </p>
<p> Feel free to follow-up via twitter to me &#8211; @boughb or Huw &#8211; @huwgilbert or respond to this email. </p>
<p> Thanks,  Bonin </p>
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<p> <img src="http://adage.com/images/bin/image/medium/pepsi_max_3.jpg?1228255136" alt="" width="322" height="473" hspace="5" vspace="5" align="right" />I know you all think I am going to mock Bonin, but I won&#8217;t. I think  this was a very bold and risky maneuver and worthy of praise rather  than a tarring and feathering. And his outreach to me, a nobody, was  accomplished within two days. When I replied to Bonin, asking if I  might be allowed to post his email, he replied back that I could post  his email but to try to &#8220;treat it kindly.&#8221; I hope I am. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Bonin knew that I blog for AdAge or that I know a  bit about how the marketer is surprised about how well-traveled the ads  have been. The old we-didn&#8217;t-think-anyone-here-would-see-it approach.  Well, that&#8217;s the Internet for you. Someone passed along the scans of  the PepsiMax ad, &#8220;One is a Very Very Lonely Calorie,&#8221; to the alert gang  here at AdAge. </p>
<p> Within two days of tweeting, I received a note from <a href="http://twitter.com/tweetmeme/status/1037780414" target="_blank">@tweetmeme</a>,  a sure sign that my tweet had gone memetic (and that I had played at  least a bit part in the mad traffic to the AdAge post as well as the  resulting <a href="http://adage.com/globalideanetwork/post?article_id=132952#comments" target="_blank">40 comments</a>.) </p>
<p> Here&#8217;s how fast and furious social media works. The article was posted  on AdAge at 4:36 PM EST on December 2nd. I read it and Tweeted at 6:16  PM EST the same day. And then I received said email from Mr. Bough at  5:21 PM on December 4. The lesson here is that social media has eyes  everywhere and the network to make sure that advertisers can no longer  hide stuff in niche markets. There is a word in intelligence about just  this thing, and it relates to messaging and propaganda: backwash.  Social media makes backwash inevitable. Here&#8217;s another one from  Intelligence: blowback. Backwash leads to blowback. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way to isolate this kind of advertisement. And there is  an inverse proportion between how badly you want your ad to remain  niche and the sensationalism surrounding its discovery. It&#8217;s a really  obvious point, but one still clearly worth stating: The internet makes  it impossible for any marketer to control which geographies and  demographics see any particular communication. You can&#8217;t even really  control what media it appears in. Think you&#8217;re creating an edgy print  ad that will only be seen in a German magazine? Think again. In the  blink of an eye, your ad is on the web. You know, the world wide one.  And all kinds of people are pissed off. </p>
<p>What I like about what &#8220;Bough, Bonin {PEP}&#8221; did here is that he  responded almost immediately, rather personally, and opened himself up  to us social media mavens. Bravo! Full marks. Another thing I like  about his apology is that there is a very good chance that I am being  played, that Mr. Bough is playing reverse psychology on me. Yes, he  readily approved my posting of this message when I asked, which leads  me to believe that the very act of clicking on the post right now is  just going to help PepsiCo with an amazingly-savvy viral marketing  campaign for PepsiMax. </p>
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<p>(Cross-posted from over at <a href="http://chrisabraham.com/2008/12/05/pepsi-apologized-to-me-for-its-suicide-ads/#title">Chris Abraham &#8212; Because the Medium is the Message</a>)</p>
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		<title>A lesson in how not to do online brand promotion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a warning to all of us who are doing conversation marketing, buzz marketing, viral marketing, social media marketing, etc. We have all been there and we have seen it many times before.  Some of us have done it!  Well, this must have stung quite a lot.  I can&#8217;t wait to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F11%2F26%2Fa-lesson-in-how-not-to-do-online-brand-promotion%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F11%2F26%2Fa-lesson-in-how-not-to-do-online-brand-promotion%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Here is a warning to all of us who are doing conversation marketing, buzz marketing, viral marketing, social media marketing, etc. We have all been there and we have seen it many times before.  Some of us have done it!  Well, this must have stung quite a lot.  I can&#8217;t wait to find out which agency did this. If anyone knows, please let me know!</p>
<p>I was just farting around <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/">Boing Boing Gadgets</a>, enjoying the fine work over there, post amusement over seeing my <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/a-private-moment-wit.html">business partner become immortal in a Boing Boing post</a> and referred to as &#8220;a globe-trotting alpha male who spends winters rubbing elbows with  bikini models down in Mauretius and summers either indulging in sport  in Berlin or piloting yachts around Cape Horn.&#8221; Well, I started reading comments and there were some funny ones, and then an <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/a-private-moment-wit.html#comment-338600">obvious comment spam about the Motorola Krave</a>. Then, the wolves circled and the entire comment thread started mocking the shiller. Ultimately, <a href="http://dynamic.boingboing.net/profile/Joel%20Johnson">Joel Johnson</a> wrote the following <em><strong>awesome</strong></em> blog post, entitled, <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/motorola-could-you-p.html">Motorola, could you please tell your viral marketer to get out of our comments?</a></p>
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<h3><a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/motorola-could-you-p.html">Motorola, could you please tell your viral marketer to get out of our comments?</a></h3>
<p>In John&#8217;s post about <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/a-private-moment-wit.html">Steve Jobs&#8217; purported tantrum</a>, a commenter &#8220;MGOODE08&#8243; <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/25/a-private-moment-wit.html#comment-338600">made this remark</a>:</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m  so glad my boss isn&#8217;t like that! I&#8217;m working with Motorola right now,  and became a huge fan of the Krave (motorola.com/krave). I especially  like the full touch screen display and html web browser. It&#8217;s awesome!</p>
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<p>On the 14th, he <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/11/14/google-releasing-spe.html#comment-330627">made this comment</a>:</p>
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<p>Oh  man this looks awesome! I hope they release a version for the Krave by  Motorola. Ever since I started working with Motorola I have became a  huge fan of the phone (motorola.com/krave). With a full list of  features, like a full touch screen, I can&#8217;t stop obsessing over it.</p>
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<p>&#8220;M Goode&#8221; loves this phone so much that he <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/11/12/apples-iphone-offers-the-ideal-micropayments-platform/#comment-912767">posted this at <em>GigaOm</em></a>:</p>
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<p>This  is a very good idea. I think it could be applied to any phones with a  similar format. Ever since I started working with Motorola I have  become a huge fan of the Krave. It has some of the same features, and I  think a built in micropayment system would be great. It’s a fairly new  phone, so if you haven’t seen it yet it’s online at motorola.com/krave.  I wonder if they will jump on the bandwagon when/if a micropayment  system is implemented.</p>
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<p>When he&#8217;s not on tech sites, though, &#8220;M Goode&#8221; loves to <a href="http://www.gamersplatform.com/2008/11/09/call-of-duty-world-at-war-review/">relax with a good game</a>:</p>
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<p>I  wish this game would get released for a mobile gaming platform,  especially the Krave. I have been a fan of this franchise since it’s  first release, and would love to have it on a cell phone, especially  the krave. Ever since I started working with Motorola, I have become a  huge fan of the krave. Has anyone else seen it?(motorola.com/krave)  It’s so loaded with features, most important of which is the full touch  screen layout. It’s DEFINITELY worth checking out.</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.yofrankie.org/?p=593#comment-5447">really into the indie gaming scene</a>:</p>
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<p>I  can’t wait to see this on a mobile phone platform! it would be so cool  to see ti on a Krave! Has anyone else seen it? (motorola.com/krave)  It’s a flip phone with a touch screen, 2 MP camera, full html browser  and bluetooth functionality. Definitely worth checking out.</p>
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<p>But uh oh! He might be considering switching from a Krave <a href="http://www.last100.com/2008/11/10/ive-been-playing-with-nokias-new-touchscreen-phone-the-5800-xpressmusic-aka-the-tube/#comment-65152">to the new Nokia</a>:</p>
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<p>My  favorite phone right now is the Krave by Motorola. I became a huge fan  of the Krave once I started working with Motorola. You can check out  the full spec list online at motorola.com/krave. It’s definitely strong  competition with it’s full touch screen</p>
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<p>(He is also apparently <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/21/bbtv-unicorn-chaser.html#comment-335916">working for Cirque Du Soleil</a>, but we&#8217;ll let them pass for the moment because I love acrobats.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Follow  the money,&#8221; they say, but in this case we don&#8217;t have to, because all we  have to do is follow the link. Motorola, if you could be so kind as to  tell your viral marketer to fuck right off we&#8217;d sure appreciate it.  Perhaps you could spend the money instead on making your phones  something that people actually want to buy.</p>
<p>P.S., I love our readers. Check out the replies they immediately started making:</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m  so glad my boss isn&#8217;t like that! I&#8217;m working for Burger King right now,  and became a huge fan of the Mushroom and Swiss Steakhouse Burger. I  especially like the cheese and mushrooms. It&#8217;s awesome!</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m  so glad my boss isn&#8217;t like that! I&#8217;m working for a pimp on the corner  of wellwood and barrington and became a huge fan of Allie and her  turrid backstroke technique. I especially like the pop and rock. It&#8217;s  awesome!</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m so glad my boss isn&#8217;t like  that! I&#8217;m working with Cryptozoologia right now, and became a huge fan  of the Trepanasaurus (Cryptozoologia.com/ Trepanasaurus). I especially  like the way that, after the dinosaur-anteater hybrid rips off the top  of a person&#8217;s head with its sharp teeth, it can suck out its victim&#8217;s  brain with its nose. It&#8217;s awesome!</p>
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		<title>Aberdeen Research&#8217;s Key Points on Social Media Adoption</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that social media encompasses so much.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.
That&#8217;s why I wrote that latest post.  We seem, in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F08%2F02%2Faberdeen-researchs-key-points-on-social-media-adoption%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Most of think of social media through our marketing lens eyes.  As we should.  That&#8217;s likely its greatest use.  But the reality is that <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">social media encompasses so much</a>.  Or more importantly, it will soon touch on most internal business operations.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wrote <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/so-then-what-is-social-media-all-about/">that latest post</a>.  We seem, in our attempts to define it, to be actually inadvertently limiting it.  Much of our call-to-change, if implemented, could result in ineffective disjointed efforts that lead to disappointment and even failure.</p>
<p>I just read a great report from Aberdeen Research, <a href="http://www.aberdeen.com/summary/report/benchmark/5195-RA-customer-20-social-media.asp">Customer 2.0: The Business Implications of Social Media</a>.  Aberdeen determined from its research that there were three levels of adoption,  <em><strong>Best in Class</strong></em> (20%) are those organizations whose practices are significantly superior to the industry standard, resulting in more successful implementation. <em><strong>Industry Average</strong></em> (50%) are exactly that.  Average adaptation, average performance. Laggards (30%) suffer from poor performance because of lower than average adaptation of social media.  Both Industry Average and Laggards are divided between companies that are looking to improve their standing and those that are apparently satisfied with their status quo or lack the vision to improve.</p>
<p>From the report I&#8217;m garnering several trends that are impacting levels of success&#8230;<span id="more-3156"></span></p>
<p><strong>Need for executive buy in should extend to culture change when needed</strong></p>
<p>Usually the need for executive buy in is something we take for granted.  If upper management is resistant to something, it&#8217;s not likely to happen.  In the study, that&#8217;s reaffirmed, but I noticed something more.</p>
<p>The buy in must extend to action.   Social media adoption can mean wholesale change. It can affect several departments.  Executive buy-in in the form of lip service is useless.</p>
<p>Case in point.  While almost two thirds of laggards (65%) say that Web 2.0 applications are a top two or of the highest priority, only 37% of them report that they&#8217;ve received full support from senior level management, and that only 13% of them have developed internal processes to implement, manage, and analyze the applications.  These are the companies that will soon be in the Industry Average category.  The other 87% aren&#8217;t so lucky.</p>
<p>The 65-37-13 discrepancy is telling.  It shows a significant detachment between what could be a stated vision and the will to carry it out.  It shows me that a large percentage of the Laggards are going to stay where they are.  One of the key factors that Aberdeen found, in the successful implementation of Web 2.0 applications is having established coordinated internal processes.  If only 13% of respondents say their organization has some sort of program in place, but yet 65% say that Web 2.0 is a priority, then a lot of the 37% of those leaders who are said to be supportive of Web 2.0 either aren&#8217;t, or they simply arent&#8217; doing their jobs.</p>
<p>Social media via Web 2.o applications is too cross-functional to be implemented department by department.  Sure, an organization can have <a href="http://twitter.com/comcastcares">a praised social media marketing effort</a>, but will that really change a <a href="http://comcastmustdie.com/">corporate culture</a>?</p>
<p><strong>Process implementation problems mean Steve Rubel&#8217;s prediction won&#8217;t come anytime soon. But still take heed.<br />
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<p>A couple of months ago, Steve Rubel <a href="http://www.micropersuasion.com/2008/03/three-internet.html">surmised</a> that the job title/descripiton of Social Media consultant will be going away in a few years.  He reasoned that as organizations become more Web 2.0 ready and adopt soicla media throughout the entity, the duties and responsibilities of the consultant will disperse as well&#8230;in fact they&#8217;ll disperse so much that they&#8217;ll dissipate when it comes to the defined role of a social media consultant.</p>
<p>I actually think he&#8217;s onto something in that today&#8217;s worker will be soon enough equipped with social media skills for fulfilling social media duties and responsibilities that today&#8217;s consultant will be quite different from tomorrow&#8217;s.  Setting up blog, wikis, and podcasts could easily be handled in house.</p>
<p>But if only 87% of Laggards,76% of Industry Average,  and  63% of Best in Class at this point  <strong>DO NOT</strong> have a process in place, then we a a long ways away from the death of the social media consultant.  But wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Social media agencies will have to become more full service.  They&#8217;ll have to adopt larger corporate practices that go beyond setting up Facebook accounts and reaching out to bloggers.  They&#8217;ll need to fully understand how a social media marketing effort effects sales and then how customer services must respond, by using social media by this (hopeful) increase in sales.  So social media strategist may be less hip, but in the end, more useful.</p>
<p><strong>Dedicated cross-functional  teams are needed, meaning the nexus of controlling responsibility must be fluid.</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in one of the company considered by a Laggard, you&#8217;ve got company.  Aberdeen found that 86% of the Laggards don&#8217;t have dedicated personnel to work on social media initiatives.  A few people working a few hours here and there.  That&#8217;s not going to work. Social media will be changing corporate and organizations culture.</p>
<p>In most organizations, social media will be implemented across several department that interact with customers or clients, vendors, investors, the media, and employees. The level of implementation of Web 2.0 applications will vary according to the size of the organization, the industry it is in, the specific needs of each department within the organization and with the organization as a whole.  The implementation of social media on a strategic level, with its technological components and human interaction focus means that it can&#8217;t be done on a cookie cutter basis.   Teams must be created knowing that their success depends on a large scale collaborative effort.</p>
<p>Collaboration means cooperation.  Each division will have its own needs, its own level of adoption and adaption.  Some of that adoption will be reliant on adoption as a whole.</p>
<p>Here again, is where I part with Jason Falls&#8217; belief that <a href="http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/07/18/social-media-is-the-responsibility-of-public-relations/">social media come under the control of public relations</a>. Internal leaders must develop and they must see across the entire enterprise.  But then again, <a href="http://marketingconversation.com/2008/07/30/social-media-who-will-control-it/">I already wrote about that</a>.</p>
<p>More importantly, at this stage of the game, management must cultivate internal resources in creating great teams to lead the way into the age of social media.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. 
I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.  Its applications go far beyond the neat [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F30%2Fso-then-what-is-social-media-all-about%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><span>With all the discussion on what social media is, what it’s future will be like, who will control it, I often feel we fail to see the forest for the trees. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I see it as too diverse of a phenomenon to pin down with one easy definition.<span>  </span>Its applications go far beyond the neat capsules that can be used to pick a particular department or function that should “own” it.<span>  </span>Social media is creating, empowering, and accompanying a paradigm shift in the way we use all media.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Are we fully there yet?<span>  </span>Of course not.<span>  </span>These are only the early stages, part of an evolutionary process that often comes step by step.<span>  </span><span> </span>But those steps are happening and happening and soon we’ll look back and be amazed how far we’ve traveled.<span>  </span>Then before we know it again, we’ll be stepping again and look back again and we’ll be amazed how much we’ve come from that first time we looked back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Yes, organizations are going to have to harness social media in ways that they can benefit from, to reach ROI.<span>  </span>This means trying to create some sort of structure for it without “siloizing” it.<span>  </span>Very difficult indeed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>I’ve tried to lay out what I see social media as.<span>  </span>Not from a specific definitional standpoint, but from a several miles up point of view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span>Interested in your feedback…</span><span id="more-3155"></span></p>
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Social media can be a practice within itself</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media&#8217;s possibilities extend beyond any traditional established practice (advertising, PR, sales, etc.) to the point that it can be a practice within itself. It can be spread across many departments and, thus, will often need practitioners who can implement coordinated efforts within an organization. The strategic methods used will often have enough attributes on a stand alone basis that it shouldn’t come underneath the heading of another specific department.<span>  </span>I&#8217;d put social media on the same par as advertising and PR. Full service social media firms have sprouted up such as Abraham Harrison to meet today’s needs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be a service</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Because social media is still in its nascent stages, clients and potential clients don&#8217;t always need comprehensive solution packages. They may need to know how to set up a blog and how to get traffic for it. Simple as that. Helping a company to start a blog is a service. So is creating a podcast. Many clients look to cherry pick services to satisfy their needs.<span>  </span>For some in social media, providing a non-coordinated menu of services is where it&#8217;s at. While social media agencies are an emerging industry, there’s not widespread demand quite yet, leaving many practitioners as service providers.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is strategy based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A company decides to let go of some (but not all) control of its marketing communications message. <span> </span>It views its customers and users on a somewhat equal level and not as blocks of ears to be shouted at and throats to have messages shoved down.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Another company uses blogs to work with customers to improve products or come up with new ones.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">These are strategic changes that are being implemented.<span>  </span>Social media can change the nature of an organization because it changes the way an organization looks at itself and its relationships with its stakeholders.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore the strategy behind social media empowers change like nothing else can.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is tactically based</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The many tools of social media can be designed to manage a problem or a series of problems.<span>  </span>That’s not something that necessarily changes an organization.<span>  </span>It’s can implemented based strictly upon need.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This can cause a lot of frustration amongst social media strategists as we see a lot of potential opportunities for business not being fulfilled.<span>  </span>For others, applying tactics itself is an opportunity.<span>  </span>A foot in the door.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is technology based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Social media can involve a host of technologies that are often complicated to learn and understand. <span> </span>Setting up RSS feeds, monitoring online conversations, designing a blog for better SEM, putting together a widget.<span>  </span>It takes technical know how to implement much of these.<span>  </span>And that’s a reason why so many ad agencies and especially PR firms have been resistant in adopting social media.</p>
<p>But the technology is constantly changing, adapting, growing, as is the myriad of ways they can be used for clients.<span>  </span>It often takes someone who is comfortable with technology to succeed.</p>
<p><strong>Social Media is theory based </strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Authenticity. Transparency. Community. Engagement. Listening. Give up some of your control.<span>  </span>All constantly espoused by social media strategists.<span>  </span>These are theories that often go against the grain of traditional thought.<span>  </span>More on engagement and less on contrived messaged, push on people.<span>  </span>This blog post is theoretical. The theories formulate the methodologies that are behind the practices and the services.</p>
<p>These theories are why so many of us blog and offer our opinions and commentaries.<span>  </span>It’s why we read one another’s blogs, friend one another on Facebook and follow one another on Twitter.</p>
<p><strong>Social media is rule based<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Aren’t authentic or transparent?<span>  </span>Watch out!<span>  </span>You’re gonna get nailed by someone in the blogosphere and it will cost you.<span>  </span>An instant case study as to how NOT do something.<span>  </span>The rules of the game were collectively created and enforced.<span>  </span></p>
<p>We’ve seen traditional agencies, large and small, ignore these rules and push ahead with fake blogs and such.<span>  </span>Ask the folks at <strong>Edelman</strong> and <strong>Zipatoni</strong>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media is anti-bureaucratic<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>This may be one of the most important points of all.<span>  </span>Because its capabilities go beyond the silos of the current corporate communications, because the public arena can embrace it as their own, because it is always changing, and because it involves giving up a serious amount of self control, social media bucks the bureaucratic structure within organizations while it fundamentally changes the relationship between the organization and its stakeholders.</p>
<p>Online as a whole can shift between advertising and PR, causing disruption.<span>  </span>Social media adds to this by bringing in customers, users, and in some cases, communities into the mix.<span>  </span>It resists authority when the authority becomes too controlling.<span>  </span>And authority usually wants control.</p>
<p>Organizational bureaucracies will be changing soon enough because of social media.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Again, I see social media as being often a separate animal from traditional PR and advertising. For that matter, online advertising itself first created that difference.<span>  </span>Social media extends that difference.<span>  </span>It has its own methodologies that are totally separate from offline advertising. The divisions here may not be silo based; but often the pool of knowledge for success in the social media arena can&#8217;t be found in traditional types.</p>
<p>Simply sticking it under a particular division within an organization can cause stifled growth as it will be badly nurtured by people with a particular preconceived mindset.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be vertical – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>It’s vertical in another manner as well.<span>  </span>And this is more of a prediction than a statement of the current conditions, but we will soon see more and more specialized firms pop up that will be geared toward certain segments of the population. <span> </span>Just as there are agencies that are geared toward the Latino market and PR firms that are geared toward the GLBT communities, we’ll see social media agencies that have developed the expertise in reaching out to certain segments of the population.<span>  </span>All you have to do is listen to the many mommy bloggers that complain about their constantly getting hit by pitches from agencies that have no clue on what it’s like being a mom. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 1</strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>From what we all hear, social media will have implications in advertising, public relations, sales, customer service, human resources, investor relations etc. It will take an enterprise wide strategy to implement all of that. And it will take an actual social media strategist who understands all of those departments and who understands the technologies behind social media to devise a plan for that enterprise. <span> </span>He or she will have to be strong enough to lead the way and manage a lot of personalities, but gentle enough to let each department blossom.<span>  </span></p>
<p><strong>Social media can be horizontal – part 2<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p>Outside organizations, agencies such as Abraham Harrison and others will continue to emerge and become successful because they will stay on the forefront of all that is happening and how it should be applied.<span>  </span>Companies won’t have the internal expertise nor will they have the time nor the personnel to implement cross functional social media strategies.</p>
<p>So, just as we see ad agencies and PR firms today, we’ll continue to see social media agencies.<span>  </span>There will definitely be a need for them.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is push<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, social media still allows you to deliver marketing messages. <span> </span>It can be the conversation starter.<span>  </span>A blog can be push as can a podcast.<span>  </span>Maybe this is obvious but I’ve heard so much talk about sitting back an listening I wanted to add this.<span>  </span>Yes, social media can be overtly promotional.<span>  </span>It just has to be done right.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media is pull</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, listening is important.<span>  </span>Then engaging is important.<span>  </span>Done right it creates trust.<span>  </span>Trust is pull.<span>  </span>Pull is good.<span>  </span>Social media is good.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social Media can be web presence centric and dispersed at the same time<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">No need to dis the hub of a website. Core elements of an organization’s social media efforts can emanate from but then be dispersed throughout blogs, Flickr, YouTube, etc.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created from within<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is obvious.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Social media can be created and enhanced by others<o:p></o:p></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The greatest threat.<span>  </span>The biggest fear.<span>  </span>The challenging factor that causes many an enterprise to resist, to delay implementations. <span> </span>But those on the outside aren’t waiting.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So to me, social media is so multi-dimensional that it can’t be easily defined in one definition, explained in a singular context, bottled up in a particular department.<o:p></o:p></p>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m in the process of pitching a potential client.  From what I see, if this works out, it will be an excellent opportunity.  They&#8217;re a marketing service provider that offers the traditional services to their client base.  The methods they use are still very much needed, they aren&#8217;t out of date, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F28%2Fthe-procession-to-failure%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F07%2F28%2Fthe-procession-to-failure%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I&#8217;m in the process of pitching a potential client.  From what I see, if this works out, it will be an excellent opportunity.  They&#8217;re a marketing service provider that offers the traditional services to their client base.  The methods they use are still very much needed, they aren&#8217;t out of date, and they won&#8217;t be out of date any time soon.  But in this era of digital marketing, those methodologies clearly aren&#8217;t enough.  Not when the users of their clients products are more likely to look online for those very products.</p>
<p>That being said, there were several aspects of conversations I&#8217;ve had with potential clients that have showed me why online marketing has yet to receive the respect that it deserves. Budget allotments, questions about handling things internally, executive level buy-in, a determined need to find specific, immediate ROI.      While I realize that the whole concept of online is still emerging, I nevertheless find this somewhat amazing.  Most people today have integrated the internet into their lives, and have done so for many years. In fact, most of us use it for communication, or entertainment for research.  But, still, there&#8217;s that initial resistance in many people in business.  It&#8217;s not only a reluctance to not only endeavor into this no longer new arena, but to also to take the very steps to learn about it.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve put together a few reasons why I think this is the case.  Each may serve as an &#8220;objection&#8221; that will need to be overcome.  Whether on a one-to-one level upon pitching a potential client.  Or on an industry-wide basis.</p>
<p><strong>Lack of Vision</strong></p>
<p>When companies can&#8217;t see beyond their basic core services, when they don&#8217;t understand &#8211;  or worse, when they don&#8217;t take the time to understand industry trends,  they show an alarming lack of vision.  And it&#8217;s a lack of vision that could kill their business.  It goes back to that &#8220;where should we be in five years?&#8221; question.  They don&#8217;t understand that they have to answer it constantly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen decision makers in some fields effectively make choices to <strong>not</strong> learn anything new.  And it&#8217;s not just because they lack an understanding that they need to change, but they never display the curiosity to learn.  The very curiosity that acts as the impetus in creating a vision that will create change.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed this in the political arena.  In between elections, I&#8217;d be attending conferences that would discuss the use of the internet in political campaigns.  They&#8217;d be attended by mostly relatively young people, all of whom were politically sharp and internet savvy.  Come election time, they wouldn&#8217;t get a seat at the table.  The more seasoned members would praise them as being &#8220;upcomers&#8221; and they&#8217;d describe themselves to being &#8220;out of the loop&#8221; when it comes to &#8220;all this technology stuff&#8221;, but they&#8217;d always make sure that these young people they&#8217;re supposedly impressed with be kept in the back room with a microscopic budget and no say in any formulation of strategy.</p>
<p><strong>The Disconnect </strong></p>
<p>The mentality seems to be, at best, that the upcoming changes (if they&#8217;re aware of them) don&#8217;t apply to them.  Somehow they feel as if they&#8217;re separate from the rest of the business world.</p>
<p>The mentality is &#8220;Sure I do the majority of my business correspondence via email, and I just bought a book on Amazon for my brother-in-law, and my co-worker&#8217;s now engaged to a guy she met on Match.com, and I&#8217;m planning a vacation by looking at Hotels.com, and I have to check my bank account status today online, and I&#8217;m gonna read that story in the Post that my friend forwarded to me, and I should donate online today to Obama/McCain, and ooh, here&#8217;s an Evite to go to thank event by the river, and I&#8217;ve got to update and add some photos to my Facebook page, and I should read that restaurant review online, and I&#8217;ll just go to the client website to get information, and that was an inspirations quote I was emailed today, and then there was that hilarious video on YouTube, and here at work, I need to place an order through that online catalog, and I want to check out the site for that vet that I need to take Scruffy to, and I should order a film from Netflix.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then they think, &#8220;But I don&#8217;t see how the internet affects my business.  It&#8217;s not tangible to what I do.&#8221;<br />
<strong>Lack of Priority</strong></p>
<p>If one thinks in terms of traditional methods, then one is going to make traditional decisions.  If online is the constant afterthought, the add-on at the end, the low priority, then it&#8217;s never going to move up.  Again, if decision makers don&#8217;t take a step back to learn and see the entire picture, then it will never happen.  Or when it finally does happen, we get&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>We Can </strong><strong>Do It Ourselves</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a trend in business to day to bring in every aspect of markeing communications in house.  That&#8217;s quite common here in the DC area with all of the associations and tech companies.  Many of these organizations turn to the &#8220;folks in IT&#8221; to create the new site that to replace the old one sorely needs an update.  This is the extension of the trend of having one&#8217;s nephew create something on his spare time and then put it up on the web.  The result is often marginal improvements that add nothing to the brand or user experience.  And by not examining beyond the confines of the offiice walls, they never see &#8220;what&#8217;s out there&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>An extra degree of separation</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the right term for all of what I&#8217;ll explain, but I see a lot of the traditional ad agencies and PR firms &#8211; the ones that are the first ones many potential clients go to &#8211; know so little about the fundamentals of online marketing &#8211; let alone the specialty of social media &#8211; that they muck up many marketing efforts.  Flash on homepages of websites, making them slow to download and invisible to search engines.  Things like that.  Blogs that post puff pieces and reworked press releases.</p>
<p>The problem is that those ad agencies and PR firms have the ear of the client, first and foremost. The marketing company hasn&#8217;t taken the time to learn new strategies, technologies, and methodologie while the client doesn&#8217;t know enough about to tell the difference.  The marketing company blocks new concepts from being brought up out of their own ignorance and territorialism.  The client says, fine, you guys are the experts.</p>
<p>The online folks are often then one degree of separation beyond this.  All too often the ear we have is that of the marketing company who may see us as a threat.</p>
<p>Soon, I&#8217;ll talk about what many in the online arena do wrong.</p>
<p>Guess, I&#8217;m just frustrated.  In a bad mood.</p>
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		<title>David Ogilvy is a Timeless Rock Star</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian Lurie always has brilliant insight over at our brother site, Conversation Marketing. Now, Ian Lurie panned down into the pre-Internet world of advertising and PR and came back with nuggets of gold. I stole his quotes below but if you check out his blog entry yourself, All I Need to Know About Internet Marketing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F24%2Fdavid-ogilvy-is-a-timeless-rock-star%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F24%2Fdavid-ogilvy-is-a-timeless-rock-star%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a href="http://www.conversationmarketing.com/2008/01/all_i_need_to_know_about_inter.htm">Ian Lurie</a> always has brilliant insight over at our brother site, <a href="http://www.conversationmarketing.com/2008/01/all_i_need_to_know_about_inter.htm">Conversation Marketing</a>. Now, Ian Lurie panned down into the pre-Internet world of advertising and PR and came back with nuggets of gold. I stole his quotes below but if you check out his blog entry yourself, <a href="http://www.conversationmarketing.com/2008/01/all_i_need_to_know_about_inter.htm">All I Need to Know About Internet Marketing I Learned from David Ogilvy</a>, you&#8217;ll read Ian&#8217;s sage advice as an added bonus for visiting his post.</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;In the advertising industry to be successful you must, of necessity, accumulate a group of creative people. This probably means a fairly high percentage of high strung, brilliant, eccentric nonconformists.&#8221; &#8212; Confessions of an Advertising Man, p. 39</p>
<p>&#8220;I have never wanted to get an account so big I could not afford to lose it.&#8221; &#8212; p. 73</p>
<p>&#8220;It is important to admit your mistakes, and to do so before you are charged with them.&#8221; &#8212; p. 91</p>
<p>&#8220;Emancipate your agency from fear.&#8221; &#8212; p. 101</p>
<p>&#8220;What you say is more important than how you say it.&#8221; &#8212; p. 121&#8243;Committees can criticize advertisements, but they cannot write them.&#8221; &#8212; p. 126</p>
<p>&#8220;The headline is the most important element in most advertisements.&#8221; &#8212; p. 133</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t beat about the bush &#8211; go straight to the point.&#8221; &#8212; p. 136</p>
<p>&#8220;People do not buy from bad-mannered liars.&#8221; &#8212; p. 195</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Matt Asay is in political email hell (so am I)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;ve ever been involved in a political campaign or you&#8217;ve contributed to a candidate &#8211; and they&#8217;ve gotten your email &#8211; then you will realize that your are now in a database that&#8217;s very hard to get out of.  And you&#8217;ll be contacted by like-minded politicians running for office.  All asking for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F14%2Fmatt-asay-is-in-political-email-hell-so-am-i%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2008%2F01%2F14%2Fmatt-asay-is-in-political-email-hell-so-am-i%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>If you&#8217;ve ever been involved in a political campaign or you&#8217;ve contributed to a candidate &#8211; and they&#8217;ve gotten your email &#8211; then you will realize that your are now in a database that&#8217;s very hard to get out of.  And you&#8217;ll be contacted by like-minded politicians running for office.  All asking for money.</p>
<p>So when I read Matt Asay&#8217;s article in Cnet, <a href="http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9849681-16.html?tag=head#addcomm">Pining for an open-source political campaign</a>, I began to laugh.  He contributed to Mitt Romney&#8217;s campaign &#8211; he know one of Romney&#8217;s sons &#8211; and is getting up to four emails per day.  Very little understanding of email marketing and relationship building on the part of Romney&#8217;s team.</p>
<p>But Matt comes up with some suggestions.  Here they are:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>All of the politician&#8217;s information &#8211; voting record, positions on the issues, etc. &#8211; would be available online in one place</strong>. The candidate&#8217;s source code, as it were. I wouldn&#8217;t need someone to call me to tell me to vote for him or her &#8211; I could choose for myself after reviewing &#8220;the source.&#8221;</li>
<li>Because of the first point, <strong>there would be no need for campaign staffers to pepper me with emails or phone calls</strong>. The source code would either attract my interest or it wouldn&#8217;t. Open source encourages a passive sales model. The sales team only bothers with those that show an affirmative, proactive interest in the &#8220;source.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Candidates would win on the basis of who they really are, not who they can pretend to be</strong>. Romney takes heat for flip-flopping, but let&#8217;s be honest: how many politicians have you seen that won&#8217;t flip-flop on an issue to pull in votes? Very few. Open source the candidates and perhaps we&#8217;d have less of this buffoonery.</li>
</ul>
<p>I like all three.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep on trying to legitimize the reasons that Facebook is using to justify their new marketing program, &#8220;Facebook Beacon&#8221;.  But it&#8217;s just not happening. It keeps on coming back to user relationships, user privacy, and user benefit.  You know, the USER.
If you&#8217;re not sure what Beacon is, it&#8217;s basically this.  Facebook [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F24%2Ffacebook-beacon-inst-in-the-users-interest-that-means-you%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarketingconversation.com%2F2007%2F11%2F24%2Ffacebook-beacon-inst-in-the-users-interest-that-means-you%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I keep on trying to legitimize the reasons that Facebook is using to justify their new marketing program, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/business/?beacon">&#8220;Facebook Beacon&#8221;</a>.  But it&#8217;s just not happening. It keeps on coming back to user relationships, user privacy, and user benefit.  You know, the USER.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not sure what Beacon is, it&#8217;s basically this.  Facebook is setting up agreements with online retailers that aren&#8217;t part of Facebook to have the retailer directly send information of what people buy on the retailer site to their &#8220;friends&#8221; on Facebook.  The user is first supposed to see a notice on the retail site for which they need to give the thumbs down if they object. So the system is supposed to be opt out.  But there&#8217;s been some circumstances where the information is just automatically sent without approval or even notification of the buyer. That means the next time you buy a book from Amazon or an item from Overstock.com, the retailer could end up letting your friends know what you bought unless you explicitly stop it.</p>
<p><span id="more-2715"></span>Facebook is positioning this as the way of advertising because it essentially involves word of mouth as a strengthening agent to traditional display. I see it as an overreaching policy designed to push the envelope that much further to see how they can monetize user experience.</p>
<p>This whole thing rubs me the wrong way.  It is part of the continual losing of control of our privacy, done with a smile, assuring us of the neat new opportunities it will bring.  Not all agree with me here. I&#8217;m reading plenty of comments of people saying that they don&#8217;t mind the idea of letting their friends know what they buy. But when I hear that, I say, fine. Then keep it opt in. Not opt out. I&#8217;m thinking those that have no objections to this sort of thing are thinking strictly of their own personal preferences in buying and the relationships that they have with their Facebook friends. And they might be of the mindset that what they do off Facebook is free game. Since I read marketing blogs, I&#8217;m also reading the comments of marketing types&#8230;not necessarily someone outside of the industry. My hunch is that most that feel that Beacon is no big deal are relatively young. As people age, they often get more private. And the demographics of Facebook is getting older as it grows.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2007/11/21/facebook-beacon-woes-are-overstated/?disqus_reply=17774#comment-17774">Matthew Ingram</a> feels as if the opposition to this is being overblown. I can&#8217;t agree. Take the case of Charlene Li. Charlene is none other than an internet analyst with Forrester.  Not exactly a newbie.  <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2007/11/close-encounter.html">She recently recounted an experience </a>she had when she bought a coffee table from Overstock.com.  She hopped online, went to the site, and ordered the table, using her personal email as opposed to her one from Forrester.  It should be pointed out that she has two profiles on Facebook.  One for professional reasons that&#8217;s tied to her Forrester email and one a personal profile that&#8217;s tied into her personal email.  The next time she logged into Facebook, she did so onto her Facebook profile.  Maybe because it was the first she logged onto, she received this: <img src="http://blogs.forrester.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/20/overstockbeacon.jpg" height="118" width="440" /></p>
<p>She points out that Overstock.com never let her opt out of this.  Or that she didn&#8217;t see anything that would allow her to opt out.  Either way, Overstock sent it without her permission.  The second part is that they sent it to her professional profile, not her personal one.  Even thought she had used her personal email.  That&#8217;s because Beacon is cookie/browser based.</p>
<p>This brings us to my first objection of <strong>user relationships</strong>.  While I&#8217;m buying a particular item on a particular online retail site, I do so because of my desire for that product and for my trust of or relationship with that store.  I&#8217;m not thinking of my friends and colleagues on Facebook when I press the buy button.  But now Facebook and the retailer have decided that Facebook is  now going to play a role.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m on Facebook, I know I&#8217;m within a somewhat closed off setting&#8230;a social network. My relationship is with Facebook and with what is within Facebook. That&#8217;s fine. That&#8217;s cool. But when I head to, say, Amazon, my relationship there is with Amazon. Not Facebook. But apparently, Facebook and Amazon have decided together that I now have a relationship with Facebook when I buy that book that I want.When I buy a product from a local retailer (an actual store, you know, a physical one), I&#8217;m a customer of that retailer and not the local newspaper. I don&#8217;t expect the store to then send a press release to the local newspaper about what I just bought and then get a phone call from a reporter asking me to approve of them putting the news in the paper. Screw that.</p>
<p>Beacon potentially violates the relationships that we form online.  Ones that we in social media marketer so often say are built on trust and respect.   Oddly, this happens with the retailer&#8217;s involvement. Facebook could easily come off as intruding into that relationship. This shouldn&#8217;t be underestimated. In a time that we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;listening&#8221; we&#8217;re talking respect.</p>
<p>Justin Smith of <a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2007/11/21/beacon-concerns-like-news-feed-concerns-of-a-year-ago-will-fade/#comments">Inside Facebook</a> sees this as a rehash of an earlier bump in the road that Facebook had to deal with.   That particular bump involved the debut of Facebook&#8217;s news feed, which informs our friends what we do on <em>within </em>Facebook.  Justin also points out that opposition to that was 10 times larger in sheer numbers.</p>
<p>Justin, if you read this, I&#8217;d answer you on those two points the following way.  First, I&#8217;d say that that initial opposition, while maybe justified was probably mollified by the understanding many would have that they&#8217;re receiving many benefits within the site and that the news feed application is a legitimate price to pay&#8230;because the feed is about what&#8217;s happenig within the site and not outside.  And your point on numbers it correct and may be legit, but I&#8217;d say part of the reason could be that most people probably found out about within a couple of weeks of in being installed.  All they had to do was log onto Facebook and they&#8217;d see a newsfeed.  The quick, collective discovery of this probably fueled the flame.</p>
<p>But what we have here will be much more drawn out.  People will be finding out over time.  Perhaps thousands each day.  Enough to build steam but not enough to have every one know about it over a couple of weeks.  But then again, the holiday season is upon us&#8230;</p>
<p>This brings me my second point, which is probably the underlying one of all.  <strong>User privacy</strong>.  It&#8217;s not anyone&#8217;s business as to whether or not Charlene bought a coffee table, regardless of how we know her.  That&#8217;s, of course, unless Charlene want us to know. This new system shouldn&#8217;t force her to take an extra step to make sure that her buying habits are private.  She didn&#8217;t invite Facebook to be that part of her personal or professional life.</p>
<p><strike>Think about it.  Say a closeted gay man who lives in a relatively conservative area goes to Amazon and buys a couple of books on coming out of the closet.  Amazon doesn&#8217;t notify him that they&#8217;re sending this info to his Facebook friends because of the same glitch that happened to Charlene.  Now, KABOOM!, he&#8217;s out of the closet.  Everyone know.  Probably before he has any clue as to what happens.  Now his life sucks.  Screw that.</strike></p>
<p><strike>Or you may have a woman who recently found she has a sexually transmitted disease.  She&#8217;s horrified, terrified.  Doesn&#8217;t want anyone to know.  She buys a book about it on Amazon.  She&#8217;s so scared, she doesn&#8217;t see the notice on Amazon that this info is being sent to Facebook.  After all, the notice was never there before.  Now her &#8216;friends&#8217; know&#8230;from her actual friends to her business colleagues.  Screw that.</strike></p>
<p><em>Follow up:  I had read on TechCrunch that Amazon is part of Beacon.  Alas, it isn&#8217;t.  Wanted to strike the above two paragraphs as a result.  My bad.</em></p>
<p>Maybe you got a buy who happily just ordered an engagement ring for his wonderful girlfriend.  Kinda nervous when he does.  Doesn&#8217;t notice that small notice on the retail site.  Now he&#8217;s planning a big surprise for her. This is a once in a lifetime event.  Being a romantic at heart, he&#8217;s gonna make it special.   He&#8217;s going to take her to the best restaurnat in town.  And while he&#8217;s there, he&#8217;s going to take her out on the balcony overlooking the sun setting over the river and OOPS!  The whole world now knows, including his sweetheart.  Great way for a girl to find out he&#8217;s popping the question. Screw that.</p>
<p>The possibilities are endless.  And they&#8217;re waiting to happen.</p>
<p>But Facebook and the retailer are now benefiting from this.  They&#8217;re making money from this new ad system.  But what about us?  What is the <strong>user benefit</strong>?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any.  I really don&#8217;t.  We will become marketing agents for retailers and products without sharing a piece of the pie.  We won&#8217;t be getting a commission.  We won&#8217;t be getting discounts from the retailer.  We won&#8217;t be having a more robust experience on Facebook because of this.  No, we&#8217;re being monetized at the loss of our privacy and convenience.  Our newfeeds will be filled up with nonsensical news that people bought coffee tables or bird cages or books on how to leave an abusive husband.  No user benefit in that.</p>
<p>This brings me to a fourth objection.  What happens to the data?  What happens to the info that Facebook receives?  Retailers house the info from the data to strengthen the relationships they have with their customers.  Now Facebook has it.  They are looking to monetize its users.  Will the data be shared with fourth parties?  Remember, Facebook is the third party here.  Will the gay guy suddenly start getting ads that appeal to the gay community?  Will this happen when he&#8217;s at work?  Will someone else get the same ads if he quickly checks his profile on a shared computer and someone else logs on to Facebook ten minutes later?</p>
<p>In other words, will the results of all of this info end up being public?  Screw that.</p>
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