Ah, controversy.
Now, it’s with Yelp, the mega online review site. On Wednesday, the East Bay Express, an alternative newspaper that covers Alameda and Contra Costa counties in California, published a very provocative article , “Yelp and the business of extortion 2.0″ on the sales operations and tactics of Yelp. The paper made some very pointed accusations, some of them seemingly legitimate while others sounding too nebulous. They state that Yelp is both maniupulating the placements of restaurants reviews as sales tools and then using scare tactics to then solicit advertising sales from these same restaurants.
The accusations are alarming but, because I think the article was poorly presented, it’s left me thinking that Yelp perhaps had a major sales problem in one office as opposed to a company wide sleaze factor policy.
Yelp’s initial response, written on the company blog by CEO Jeremy Stoppleman is inept and insufficient. He’s likely satisfied that his blog posts are enough…and it may appear to be just that for the time being…but controversies such as this, be they true or just speculation, have a way of undermining a company’s integrity in a hurry. Especially a site that 1) is about user generated online reviews, and 2) has trust as a hallmark of its standing.
Oddly, the Yelp blog doesn’t allow comments. That’s not a good idea…especially for a site that’s about online reviews and citizen participation.
Here’s the gist of the article. Writer Kathleen Richards talked to “dozens” of business owners over the “past several months” and found that six of them said that Yelp sales reps promised to remove or move bad reviews if the business chose to advertise. And these businesses would often get sales calls from Yelp reps soon after they mysteriously started getting a rash of negative reviews. The theory here is that Yelp employees would start to or enlist others to write negative reviews on a company, those reviews would then appear at the top of a company’s page, and the company would get a phone call from a rep looking for an advertising by so those reviews can “go away”…usually to the tune of $300 a month.
For those that declined, positive reviews seemed to begin to disappear. For those that did manage to buy, negative ones began disappearing.
This is pretty damning stuff. If true, it shows a coordinted effort between people in sales those on the back end tech team. It made some establishments feel as if Yelp was acting as if it was the “mafia” in that Yelp was threatening establishments to pay (advertise) in order to not be damaged. That’s called “protection money” in organized crime.
But as I red between the lines I ended up scratching my head. Over several months, after talking to “dozens” of businesses, Richards found six restaurants that felt that either they were being offered a quid-pro-qo for advertising to reduce or eliminate bad reviews; or some felt that this extended to manipulative threats of the placement of poor reviews and the elimination of postive reviews.
“Dozens. “What does that mean? 36? 60? 84? How did Richards find these restaurants? Did she talk to one and then ask the owner/manager if he or she knew of any others that had similar stories? Both questions are important. The first because it leads to how widespread the problem actually is in the Bay Area and the second, because if there is a lack or randomness to all this, then the sample restaurants are self selected by the reporter.
The article relies on the how some of the restaurant owners “feel”. These feelings may be completely legitimate. But it is hard to counter a “feelings”e of another is the one with the feelings remain anonymous. I fully believe in using anonymous sources, but there should be greater evidence used. That is, if one is trying to prove that this is a consistent sales tactic used by the company as a whole.
And speaking of as a whole. This article seems to be focusing soley on the East Bay restaurant seen. True, it is an East Bay pub, but the article is written as if it is a widespread problem and the issue here is “the business of extortion”. It fully damns the Yelp based on a small sample of local business’ feelings.
Stoppleman has since written a few more blog posts, but he could use a change of attitude. There’s been enough discussion on the net about this article denigrating Yelp. Hundreds of tweets on Twitter, negative mentions on Technorati, and articles in substantial online pubs.
The reason why I say that Stoppleman could use a change of attitude is because he’s treating all of this as an illegitimate attack. The accusations, regardless of their veracity, at least sound reasonable. And his defensiveness doesn’t really address the issue.
He does have on post that does work, at bit, in my opinion. “Nine Myths About Yelp” is designed to negate what he feels are falsehoods. The most important one he lists is #3 (it should be #1, but he doesn’t seem to realize it). It is stated here:
Myth #3: Yelp salespeople manipulate reviews for prospective advertisers (for example, offers to remove a negative review if a new client signs up, or a threat to remove positive reviews if the business owner does not choose to advertise with Yelp)
Reality: We have every reason to trust the smart, hard-working and ethical salespeople who work at Yelp. Beyond this, to avoid even an appearance of impropriety, we’ve taken several steps to ensure no member of our team is tempted to game the system. Specifically:
1. Yelp salespeople do not have access to the system that deletes reviews; only a few members of Yelp engineering and user support team have this access, and they literally work on different floors within the office.
2. Every Yelp salesperson signs an agreement that s/he will not write reviews of any business while employed by Yelp. We trust our teammates in sales to live up to this commitment. We also have several monitoring systems in place to ensure nobody (accidentally or otherwise) crosses this line.
3. Through our vigilance, we once did find a salesperson who encouraged a friend to write a positive review for a prospective client (that the friend had actually patronized). The salesperson’s role at Yelp ended that day.
4. When a new advertiser signs up with Yelp, the relationship is handed off to an Account Manager. The Account Manager then takes the client through a 30 minute phone training session — and confirms that reviews have nothing to do with advertising.
5. After the training call, the Account Manager sends a follow up survey that asks each client how much s/he agrees with the following statement: “I understand that Reviews are completely separate from the Yelp Ad Program, and that there is an automated filter that may suppress some of my reviews whether or not I am a client.” Any client who does not click “Completely Agree” in this case gets yet another follow-up call for clarification.Myth #4: Yelp removes positive reviews from businesses its staff does not like, or from businesses that do not pay for advertising
Reality: A review you may have seen on Yelp previously is no longer there; this happens. The review in question may have “disappeared” for one of three reasons:
1. The review may have been suppressed by Yelp’s automated Review Filter, which is always out there looking for suspicious reviewing activity (like those anonymous rants and raves you see on other sites).
2. The writer may have removed her own review; she has the right to do that at any time
3. Another user believed the review violated Yelp’s Review Guidelines and sent it to our customer service team for review. The customer service team agreed, then manually removed the review.Both our customer service team and the Review Filter work exactly the same way for advertisers as they do for non-advertisers.
This is how he should have addressed the issue at the very beginning. Blown opportunity and his company has suffered and will continue to suffer as a result. And he has to go beyond stating that the sales people and the tech people with access to placement of reviews work on different floors.
My guess is what happened is that a few sales reps in that particular office would scour the reviews on Yelp, and when they found some recent newly written negative ones, they then picked up the phone and made a sales call, offering the package that places a selected postive review on top – one that is visibly marked as being sponsored. Some pitches probably went far beyond this…saying that they could make the negative one “disappear”. Sales people will say sleazy things. Stoppleman should understand this and not discount this. He should then conduct some sort of internal audit that would show the public that he is trying to address the problem and root it out if it exists. Retrain. Resolve.
Now is it possible that some sales types had relationships with the tech people. Absolutely. Different floors – HA! So the problem may have been more than a poorly written article. Yelp needs to look into that because, as Yelp knows, online reputations matter.
And to Jeremy Stoppleman…you should allow people to comment on your blog posts.
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Awesome post, Jonathan! Great to see you here!
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