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		<title>By: Abraham Harrison</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2007/07/26/if-i-was-to-setup-a-blogger-relations-program/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Abraham Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it all comes down to it, I have only one rule: give more than you give.

The moment we fancy ourselves as rockstars who should get the adoration of bloggers is the moment we turn into old PR and marketing.

Who do those marketing, advertising, and PR people think they are, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it all comes down to it, I have only one rule: give more than you give.</p>
<p>The moment we fancy ourselves as rockstars who should get the adoration of bloggers is the moment we turn into old PR and marketing.</p>
<p>Who do those marketing, advertising, and PR people think they are, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Karpeles</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2007/07/26/if-i-was-to-setup-a-blogger-relations-program/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Karpeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

Very well-written post and quite comprehensive to boot.  Many of the crucial points have already been covered, but I think the key is approach this issue in a collaborative manner.

Don&#039;t see bloggers as the ones who will do your bidding.  They&#039;re people.  People who you need to foster a relationship with.  You don&#039;t have to be all warm and fuzzy with them, but you need to break down the barriers and move away from the whole notion of &quot;pitching&quot; something to someone.

Find a way to connect.  Be transparent.  Be authentic.  Throw deception out the window and be prepared to provide plenty of relevant value. 

Great discussion so far, and I apologize for jumping in so late.  Thanks for sharing all this Jonathan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>Very well-written post and quite comprehensive to boot.  Many of the crucial points have already been covered, but I think the key is approach this issue in a collaborative manner.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t see bloggers as the ones who will do your bidding.  They&#8217;re people.  People who you need to foster a relationship with.  You don&#8217;t have to be all warm and fuzzy with them, but you need to break down the barriers and move away from the whole notion of &#8220;pitching&#8221; something to someone.</p>
<p>Find a way to connect.  Be transparent.  Be authentic.  Throw deception out the window and be prepared to provide plenty of relevant value. </p>
<p>Great discussion so far, and I apologize for jumping in so late.  Thanks for sharing all this Jonathan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Trenn</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2007/07/26/if-i-was-to-setup-a-blogger-relations-program/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, thanks for responding.  You&#039;re making great points.

The reason I said at the end was twofold, but it doens&#039;t negate your explanation.  I had wanted to give th bloggers enought time to experience the product to be able to take questions from their readers effectively.  And I feared that they would be perhaps more cooperative with doing it once...but i like the way you&#039;re presenting it.  Feedback throughout.  The marketing company and client here the questions as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, thanks for responding.  You&#8217;re making great points.</p>
<p>The reason I said at the end was twofold, but it doens&#8217;t negate your explanation.  I had wanted to give th bloggers enought time to experience the product to be able to take questions from their readers effectively.  And I feared that they would be perhaps more cooperative with doing it once&#8230;but i like the way you&#8217;re presenting it.  Feedback throughout.  The marketing company and client here the questions as well.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; BR programs drive buzz, sentiment and conversation Via Marketing Conversation - New Marketing and Social Media by Abraham Harrison LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; BR programs drive buzz, sentiment and conversation Via Marketing Conversation - New Marketing and Social Media by Abraham Harrison LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Abraham Harrison</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2007/07/26/if-i-was-to-setup-a-blogger-relations-program/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>Abraham Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an important point and I am going to pop it to the fore:

&quot;Finally, this may go without saying, but it’s probably a good idea to set expectations early and very clearly with the client. If they’re looking for a sales boost, you have absolutely no control over that. They should be looking for comments, sentiment, and number of hits, for starters. Whatever it is, marketer and client should be aligned.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an important point and I am going to pop it to the fore:</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally, this may go without saying, but it’s probably a good idea to set expectations early and very clearly with the client. If they’re looking for a sales boost, you have absolutely no control over that. They should be looking for comments, sentiment, and number of hits, for starters. Whatever it is, marketer and client should be aligned.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jonathan. This is a nice primer for any entity interested in doing an influencer outreach program.

I would echo CK&#039;s suggestion of having a blogger panel - an advisory board of sorts - existing throughout the program. One of the benefits of marketing in this digital age is that we can listen, respond and change our tactics in real time.

There are as many opinions as there are bloggers out there (maybe more!), so it&#039;s best to limit the input that you&#039;ll be collecting. But with the right advisory group in place, they&#039;ll help guide you to success. crayon used this approach with the Virtual Thirst program for Coca-Cola in Second Life and we were rewarded with a warm reception and lots of participation in the contest.

And while you touch on it tangentially in your horizontal/vertical tiers, I&#039;d create a third dimension. I&#039;m not suggesting to select based on prominence alone, but to use this as an additional measure against which to measure how far their influence goes. Understanding how many readers they have (ideally) is certainly an important measure; another way of assessing this is to look at the number of comments and links to their posts.

Finally, this may go without saying, but it&#039;s probably a good idea to set expectations early and very clearly with the client. If they&#039;re looking for a sales boost, you have absolutely no control over that. They should be looking for comments, sentiment, and number of hits, for starters. Whatever it is, marketer and client should be aligned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jonathan. This is a nice primer for any entity interested in doing an influencer outreach program.</p>
<p>I would echo CK&#8217;s suggestion of having a blogger panel &#8211; an advisory board of sorts &#8211; existing throughout the program. One of the benefits of marketing in this digital age is that we can listen, respond and change our tactics in real time.</p>
<p>There are as many opinions as there are bloggers out there (maybe more!), so it&#8217;s best to limit the input that you&#8217;ll be collecting. But with the right advisory group in place, they&#8217;ll help guide you to success. crayon used this approach with the Virtual Thirst program for Coca-Cola in Second Life and we were rewarded with a warm reception and lots of participation in the contest.</p>
<p>And while you touch on it tangentially in your horizontal/vertical tiers, I&#8217;d create a third dimension. I&#8217;m not suggesting to select based on prominence alone, but to use this as an additional measure against which to measure how far their influence goes. Understanding how many readers they have (ideally) is certainly an important measure; another way of assessing this is to look at the number of comments and links to their posts.</p>
<p>Finally, this may go without saying, but it&#8217;s probably a good idea to set expectations early and very clearly with the client. If they&#8217;re looking for a sales boost, you have absolutely no control over that. They should be looking for comments, sentiment, and number of hits, for starters. Whatever it is, marketer and client should be aligned.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Full diclosure? Transparency? Tranlucency? Via Marketing Conversation - New Marketing and Social Media by Abraham Harrison LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Full diclosure? Transparency? Tranlucency? Via Marketing Conversation - New Marketing and Social Media by Abraham Harrison LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sci-Fi Media Tour for Bloggers wasa BRP as was the Nikon &quot;Picture This!&quot; Program (you gotta laugh that I&#039;m the only blogger who knows the name of the Nikon BRP, eh? Even the people who have received cameras still don&#039;t know the name of the program--great branding, eh?). 

The fact that they were both programs that reached out to bloggers was/is the only thing they have in common. Sci-Fi reached out to Sci-Fi bloggers who&#039;s dedicated interest was Sci-Fi. Nikon reached out to marketers who did not blog about cameras (and still don&#039;t care about cameras). Sci-Fi Channel gave 30 bloggers content to share with their communities who received value from that content because....because they have a dedicated interest in Sci-Fi. Just like the CNN/YouTube Video Debates involved people who have interest in politics and issues.

So yes, it&#039;s Apple to Pears being they&#039;re both fruit, or BRPs. But that&#039;s about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sci-Fi Media Tour for Bloggers wasa BRP as was the Nikon &#8220;Picture This!&#8221; Program (you gotta laugh that I&#8217;m the only blogger who knows the name of the Nikon BRP, eh? Even the people who have received cameras still don&#8217;t know the name of the program&#8211;great branding, eh?). </p>
<p>The fact that they were both programs that reached out to bloggers was/is the only thing they have in common. Sci-Fi reached out to Sci-Fi bloggers who&#8217;s dedicated interest was Sci-Fi. Nikon reached out to marketers who did not blog about cameras (and still don&#8217;t care about cameras). Sci-Fi Channel gave 30 bloggers content to share with their communities who received value from that content because&#8230;.because they have a dedicated interest in Sci-Fi. Just like the CNN/YouTube Video Debates involved people who have interest in politics and issues.</p>
<p>So yes, it&#8217;s Apple to Pears being they&#8217;re both fruit, or BRPs. But that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Trenn</title>
		<link>http://marketingconversation.com/2007/07/26/if-i-was-to-setup-a-blogger-relations-program/comment-page-1/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan

Point well taken.  For all, here is the link to Susan&#039;s article on the Sci Fi channel&#039;s effort:

http://getgood.typepad.com/getgood_strategic_marketi/2007/07/sci-fi-channel-.html

But I still think we&#039;re comparing apples to pears so to speak.  The Sci Fi effort was about an intangilbe object (a TV show) that they were trying to promote to an already established fan base inorder to ensure viewrship.  I think the way they went about it was excellent.  

With Nikon, we&#039;re talking about a physical product that the company was looking to promto to and educate different categories/ communities/audiences of the online public - audiences that may not have know about the camera but could easily have an interest in it based upon the type of person they are.  And these people have a specific relationship to the bloggers who are similar to them.  Mommies reading mommy bloggers, travel afficianados reading travel blogs.

I see it as a way of reaching out to new customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan</p>
<p>Point well taken.  For all, here is the link to Susan&#8217;s article on the Sci Fi channel&#8217;s effort:</p>
<p><a href="http://getgood.typepad.com/getgood_strategic_marketi/2007/07/sci-fi-channel-.html" rel="nofollow">http://getgood.typepad.com/getgood_strategic_marketi/2007/07/sci-fi-channel-.html</a></p>
<p>But I still think we&#8217;re comparing apples to pears so to speak.  The Sci Fi effort was about an intangilbe object (a TV show) that they were trying to promote to an already established fan base inorder to ensure viewrship.  I think the way they went about it was excellent.  </p>
<p>With Nikon, we&#8217;re talking about a physical product that the company was looking to promto to and educate different categories/ communities/audiences of the online public &#8211; audiences that may not have know about the camera but could easily have an interest in it based upon the type of person they are.  And these people have a specific relationship to the bloggers who are similar to them.  Mommies reading mommy bloggers, travel afficianados reading travel blogs.</p>
<p>I see it as a way of reaching out to new customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are &quot;transparency&quot; and &quot;full disclosure&quot; the same, similar, or different? Are they peas-in-a-pod or can they be mutually-exclusive? Can you have transparency without disclosure? Can you have full-disclosure without transparency? Is full-disclosure a child of transparency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are &#8220;transparency&#8221; and &#8220;full disclosure&#8221; the same, similar, or different? Are they peas-in-a-pod or can they be mutually-exclusive? Can you have transparency without disclosure? Can you have full-disclosure without transparency? Is full-disclosure a child of transparency?</p>
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