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	<title>Comments on: Brand and Image are not the same</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Trenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Trenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver

For clarification, how does one explain when a company reasonably carries out its brand message effectively - like WalMart and McDonalds) but doens&#039;t necessarily convey that to their overall image.

It&#039;s my guess that there are a lot of parents that may not like McDonalds as an establishment but  will still take the kids there because it&#039;s quick and inexpensive.  And this, of course, creates a new generation of customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver</p>
<p>For clarification, how does one explain when a company reasonably carries out its brand message effectively &#8211; like WalMart and McDonalds) but doens&#8217;t necessarily convey that to their overall image.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my guess that there are a lot of parents that may not like McDonalds as an establishment but  will still take the kids there because it&#8217;s quick and inexpensive.  And this, of course, creates a new generation of customers.</p>
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		<title>By: olivier blanchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>olivier blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, good point: You can&#039;t precisely substitute the term &quot;brand&quot; for the term &quot;image&quot;.  Agreed.  

But image (or reputation) is the expression of the brand out there in the real world.    

The concept of a brand, or the idea behind it (usually translated into the &quot;message&quot;) is usually what a brand&#039;s CMO focuses on: For McDonald&#039;s, it&#039;s that combination of convenience, cheapness, but , cleanliness and familiarity.

Some companies do a great job of reconciling both the message and the image/reputation so that you get a consistent brand experience from the messaging to the regular use of the products that fall under their umbrella.  (Macintosh, for example. Or Rudy Project.  Or BMW.)

Others, however, don&#039;t.  In those cases, you get a clear separation between the message (wishful thinking/lip service) and the image or reputation (the sad reality).

Who can forget the fast food scene in &quot;Falling Down&quot; in which a completely insane Michael Douglas holds a fast food joint hostage while he rants about the difference between the way the restaurant&#039;s burgers look on their menu and how they look in reality?  The scene is a fiercely effective illustration of the divide that can exist between a brand&#039;s message, and a less pristine reality.

Your brand is both the promise and the execution of that promise.  It cannot be successful if these two are not perfectly aligned and balanced.

I continue to run into CMOs who only want to talk about branding in terms of messaging (the promise).  It&#039;s all Marketing communications, PR, creative, etc.  They don&#039;t understand that their brands are about what they do (the execution), not just what they say.

So while the person you mentioned may be taking his definition of a brand a little too far in the &quot;reputation management&quot; direction, he could teach a thing or two to old school marketers who still live in a command &amp; control state of denial.

Great blog, BTW.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, good point: You can&#8217;t precisely substitute the term &#8220;brand&#8221; for the term &#8220;image&#8221;.  Agreed.  </p>
<p>But image (or reputation) is the expression of the brand out there in the real world.    </p>
<p>The concept of a brand, or the idea behind it (usually translated into the &#8220;message&#8221;) is usually what a brand&#8217;s CMO focuses on: For McDonald&#8217;s, it&#8217;s that combination of convenience, cheapness, but , cleanliness and familiarity.</p>
<p>Some companies do a great job of reconciling both the message and the image/reputation so that you get a consistent brand experience from the messaging to the regular use of the products that fall under their umbrella.  (Macintosh, for example. Or Rudy Project.  Or BMW.)</p>
<p>Others, however, don&#8217;t.  In those cases, you get a clear separation between the message (wishful thinking/lip service) and the image or reputation (the sad reality).</p>
<p>Who can forget the fast food scene in &#8220;Falling Down&#8221; in which a completely insane Michael Douglas holds a fast food joint hostage while he rants about the difference between the way the restaurant&#8217;s burgers look on their menu and how they look in reality?  The scene is a fiercely effective illustration of the divide that can exist between a brand&#8217;s message, and a less pristine reality.</p>
<p>Your brand is both the promise and the execution of that promise.  It cannot be successful if these two are not perfectly aligned and balanced.</p>
<p>I continue to run into CMOs who only want to talk about branding in terms of messaging (the promise).  It&#8217;s all Marketing communications, PR, creative, etc.  They don&#8217;t understand that their brands are about what they do (the execution), not just what they say.</p>
<p>So while the person you mentioned may be taking his definition of a brand a little too far in the &#8220;reputation management&#8221; direction, he could teach a thing or two to old school marketers who still live in a command &amp; control state of denial.</p>
<p>Great blog, BTW.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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